Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua Deal Can Get Done if Negotiations Are Private

[Laligalaliga]

Wrong again. Do your research.

no.... you do your research.

[Sid-Knee]

Wilder and his Contradictions...


Do yourself a favor, avoid future disappointment and don't believe ANY OF THEM! I been watching boxing for a very long time and one thing I've learned is that they're all Liars...Fighters, Managers, Promoters, Trainers, Advisers, Publicist, Judges, Refs, Commissions and whatever...they're all Liars in the sport of boxing it is ZERO honesty in this sport.

You want to play this take sides blame game, I'm not doing that BS, they're all full of it and when they're truly ready to fight then the fight will happen

Have you actually watched those 2 Hearn videos? Obviously not.

It isn't Eddie contradicting himself, it's Fury. Eddie offered him 40% to fight AJ but Fury doesn't know how much that would actually entail. So he wanted the flat fee. Eddie gave it to him if he wanted it. Then in another video, Eddie is just saying what Fury is saying in that he wants 50/50. So they're not his contradictions. These are just like all the other videos of these supposed "Contradictions" that get smashed out of the park with ease.

As for the second video. Well, he thinks slagging Wilder off is a contradiction. Best not take any notice of that moron.

As I say, give me evidence of Eddie ACTUALLY contradicting himself and i'll accept.

[Sid-Knee]

Sid-Knee buddy! I am trying. I am trying harder than the average individual to be sane are under pressure and fire from you. You are a flame thrower. You have hurled every inconceivable insult, putdown, rude, abusive and disrespectful language unimaginable at me and yet I still try to remain calm and patient with you.

However, there is one thing I won't do. I will not apologize for being a Deontay Wilder fan. I will not apologize for not lying down when others abuse and misuse him by throwing false and defamatory allegations and lies against him when they are not true. I won't apologize for being American and supporting my fellow compatriots.

Sid-Knee, you see son not everyone is going to share your values no matter how much you attempt to superimpose them upon others. Everyone is unique and different. No more than I can superimpose my values upon others no matter how much I attempt to either because everyone is different.

I know that you want everyone and the whole wide world to love Anthony Joshua, Eddie Hearn, Matchroom Sport, British fighters and Great Britain as much as you do but not everyone is capable of doing that because many people are different from you and it eats you up on the inside when others reject the things that you love. Which is the crux of the matter. So the problem isn't me or anyone else who thinks and believes like me. The problem is the person who you see in the mirror everyday.

So just take a closer look pal and you'll see who is the real problem.

Support Wilder, that's fine. Just stop with all the lies.

And no one is asking for anyone to love British fighters or Matchroom. It's just the lies, delusion and contradictions I can't abide by. If we keep it sane, then all is good. If you don't want to do that, then I can't see you any other way other than insane.

It's really simple. There's a problem in your country with many Americans saying the same kind of things you say which is scary. So if anyone needs to look at themselves in the mirror, it's clearly people like you.

If you can't find fault with what you write, then I think it's way too late in the day for you to be anything else.

[champion4ever]

Support Wilder, that's fine. Just stop with all the lies.

And no one is asking for anyone to love British fighters or Matchroom. It's just the lies, delusion and contradictions I can't abide by. If we keep it sane, then all is good. If you don't want to do that, then I can't see you any other way other than insane.

It's really simple. There's a problem in your country with many Americans saying the same kind of things you say which is scary. So if anyone needs to look at themselves in the mirror, it's clearly people like you.

If you can't find fault with what you write, then I think it's way too late in the day for you to be anything else.

That's not true at all. I confess that I can be just as stubborn and obstinate as any boxing fan on here when it comes to defending my favorite fighters or convictions.

In addition, I can admit, that I do come across as a bit aggressive and extreme at times but that is all part of being a boxing fan. If I was capable of doing all the things that you want me to do then I won't be much of boxing fan now would I?

However, for the most part, I am flexible. If I say or perceive anything that I believe is wrong or incorrect; I will either apologize or speak out about it because I am a man of honor and character.

For instance, just like when Deontay Wilder said that he wanted a body on his record. I had to rebuke the brother because he is a role model and many kids and young people look up to him.

I made it known that he was not only abusing and disrespecting his platform but also himself; Because he is role model whether he wants to be or not and has a huge responsibility as a heavyweight titleholder and therefore, he should conduct himself as such by setting a better example.

[Sid-Knee]

That's not true at all. I confess that I can be just as stubborn and obstinate as any boxing fan on here when it comes to defending my favorite fighters or convictions.

In addition, I can admit, that I do come across as a bit aggressive and extreme at times but that is all part of being a boxing fan. If I was capable of doing all the things that you want me to do then I won't be much of boxing fan now would I?

However, for the most part, I am flexible. If I say or perceive anything that I believe is wrong or incorrect; I will either apologize or speak out about it because I am a man of honor and character.

For instance, just like when Deontay Wilder said that he wanted a body on his record. I had to rebuke the brother because he is a role model and many kids and young people look up to him.

I made it known that he was not only abusing and disrespecting his platform but also himself; Because he is role model whether he wants to be or not and has a huge responsibility as a heavyweight titleholder and therefore, he should conduct himself as such by setting a better example.

Are you winding me up? You're a man of character and honour? You actually wrote this?

You come out with things that are crazy. It goes way beyond being a fan. You think Wilder is going to get 60% even though he brings peanuts to the table against a huge ticket seller and PPV star that is earning over 35 Million. If you think that makes any sense what so ever then there is no helping you. Then you contradicted yourself again and claimed something else.

You call AJ the one who is ducking, even though Wilder just turned down a 100 Mill fight deal. You think that was a lowball. That's insane. Wilder couldn't even shift tickets for his fight last night. They gave most of them away for free. He generates about 3-4 Mill and nothing more. AJ brings in his money as well as his opponents which is over 40 Million. What part of this reality are you actually struggling with?

Wilder wanting half is like Berto asking Floyd for half. It's f3cking insane. You don't see me talking madness like this do you? I'll keep it legit if it warrants it. Wilder doesn't when it comes to AJ. The second biggest fight he could have in the division only netted him and Fury 7 Mill each.

You also keep saying Hearn and AJ lie without any evidence. But support Wilder and co who can't stop lying and contradicting themselves.

Sort it out, man.

[Adamsc151]

In all due respect mate, Tyson Fury should be very grateful that he walked away with a Draw that night. He was damn near knocked out and would have been counted out had there been another referee.

Jack Reiss' ten count was about a split second too slow. Any other referee would have reached the count of 10 before Tyson got up before the count of nine and waved the fight off. Therefore, Tyson should be counting his lucky stars that he was given some extra time.

It's the reason why he's avoided the rematch. In addition, it's the reason why Wilder wants the rematch so badly because he felt that Fury got away with a referee's gift decision in that fight.

I've seen the count a few times now and it was **** on for timing, I thought it was long in the moment though. Fury was up by 10, but then again so was Breazeale on Saturday but that ref saw the legs wobble and waved it off anyway. Whereas Reiss gave Fury a couple of seconds to steady his legs afterwards. My only complaint is the inconsistency shown by different ref's, regarding whether they believe a fighter is able to continue or not once they've regained their feet.

[champion4ever]

I've seen the count a few times now and it was **** on for timing, I thought it was long in the moment though. Fury was up by 10, but then again so was Breazeale on Saturday but that ref saw the legs wobble and waved it off anyway. Whereas Reiss gave Fury a couple of seconds to steady his legs afterwards. My only complaint is the inconsistency shown by different ref's, regarding whether they believe a fighter is able to continue or not once they've regained their feet.

It seemed that Jack Reiss did give Tyson Fury just enough extra time to reach his feet before the count of ten while others are complaining that referee Harvey Dock's count was too fast.

However when watching the replay there is incontrovertible an irrefutable evidence that Dominic Breazeale did not beat the count. By the time Harvey Dock reached the count of ten, Breazeale's right knee was yet still on the canvas.

Moreover, when he did eventually rise to his feet; He nearly stumbled and would have hit the canvas again but the referee and the ropes helped break his fall.

The proof is right here:







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[Adamsc151]

It seemed that Jack Reiss did give Tyson Fury just enough extra time to reach his feet before the count of ten while others are complaining that referee Harvey Dock's count was too fast.

However when watching the replay there is incontrovertible an irrefutable evidence that Dominic Breazeale did not beat the count. By the time Harvey Dock reached the count of ten, Breazeale's right knee was yet still on the canvas.

Moreover, when he did eventually rise to his feet; He nearly stumbled and would have hit the canvas again but the referee and the ropes helped break his fall.

The proof is right here:







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The footage I watched on Sky looked like Breazeale was getting up at 8, But there's no doubting his knees went as soon as he was upright. That's the difference between when Fury got up. Breazeale heard the count at around 7, panicked and tried to get up too fast seemingly causing a head rush and leaving him unbalanced. As soon as the ref saw them knees wobble it was done. Fury Made sure his head was right then got up slowly and deliberately so his balance looked fine, then the ref checked him over for a few seconds before allowing him to continue.
I do wonder what would've happened if the ref's were reversed, but then every ref will have a slightly different way of working same as every judge will see a fight slightly differently.