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  • KTFOKING
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    #101
    Originally posted by killakali
    agreed but the contracts are signed. His whole stable can go to DAZN now and he has the contracts locked in. That would only affect a renewal and it’s what got him the deal in the first place.
    Contracts are signed, but WME will obviously want to keep the fighters. I mean what good is network deals without the fighters? WME isn't make a short term investment here if they buy the PBC. They will want to keep this deep stable.

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      #102
      Originally posted by killakali
      huh? MTK global runs their tv deal. It’s all the same like pbc and Haymon boxing
      No, your example made no sense at all. Haymon Sports RUNS PBC...Let me repeat it for you, Haymon Sports RUNS PBC....MTK doesn't run TR and TR doesn't run MTK. So why the hell would MTK put their contact information as TR? Just leave it, that was a terrible example.

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      • KTFOKING
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        #103
        Originally posted by killakali
        Not true pbc has the tv contracts to keep most of them. Some pbc guys want to leave now but don’t because they are under contract
        Not true exactly what? And a lot of these PBC guys are free to sign elsewhere. You are naive if you think if Haymon is forced out that his fighters just stay. Again, they are fighting on PBC because of HIM, not because of any network.

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        • KTFOKING
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          #104
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          Thanks.

          Its right in the beginning. Or he talks about his situation in the beginning is there more to it?

          If there isn't more to it than he's just saying he's a promotional free agent. Spence is too. Wilder is too. Most Haymon managed guys are promotional free agents. They still have a contract with Haymon.

          I don't buy Haymon isn't doing contracts with his guys with all this money he's gotten already. If I'm W&R I'm not giving Al all the money they allegedly have or even 1% of that money on a handshake he has with fighters. F#ck that wouldn't be a investment that'd be some loan sh^t at that point.
          Found it. Here you go:



          "I'm not signed with Al Haymon. I haven't been signed for the last three years now."

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          • killakali
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            #105
            Originally posted by KTFOKING
            No, your example made no sense at all. Haymon Sports RUNS PBC...Let me repeat it for you, Haymon Sports RUNS PBC....MTK doesn't run TR and TR doesn't run MTK. So why the hell would MTK put their contact information as TR? Just leave it, that was a terrible example.
            It’s a great example. haymon sports runs pbc because it’s the same umbrella. No difference

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              #106
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              Not true exactly what? And a lot of these PBC guys are free to sign elsewhere. You are naive if you think if Haymon is forced out that his fighters just stay. Again, they are fighting on PBC because of HIM, not because of any network.
              actually you are very naive. They are mostly fighting on pbc for the money and not HIM. If Haymon didn’t guarantee wilder almost 20 mil for Breazeale he would be a DAZN fighter right now. That’s a fact. They are only loyal so far. Money is first.

              And with the tv deals WME would be in position to keep most of these fighters.

              DAZN and TR don’t have the resources to get them all anyways. That’s a lot of money and pbc would still have the tv deals to keep paying these purses.

              You think of Haymon was gone Spence automatically jumps to DAZN or espn lol ? A few would but most would stay.

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              • Eff Pandas
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                #107
                Originally posted by KTFOKING
                No no no. He actually mentions he hasn't had ANYTHING in writing with Haymon for a while so he could go fight anyone at any network. Then the follow up question was so you and your brothers could just go anywhere? He said, well, they actually have a written contract with Haymon.
                Yea idk. I still think there might be some semantics in his response there.

                Or maybe this is why GRJ is only fighting once a year. I mean f#ck...you do need SOMEONE on your team lol. Can't not have a promoter & a manager & just be out there making calls your damn self. I mean you can, but again this might be why he's fighting once a year idk.

                I'd definitely be surprised if there were many others in similar situations & specifically major PBC aasets not contractually connected to Al cuz at some point Al puts himself at risk of getting f#cked if part of his cut goes to W&R & Wilder or Spence haven't given him his 15% or w/e.

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                • BoxingIsGreat
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING
                  GRJ mentioned himself in an interview last week during Hurd/Williams fight week.



                  Sorry I can't tell you at minute mark he said it, but it's there lol.
                  Nice Russell interview. He says he's a free agent and can sign with anyone. Not tied to any network or promoter.

                  I watched the whole thing. Looks like Russell means business this time. Says Santa Cruz should grow some cajones! He wants to fight everyone at 130, including Berchelt and Davis.

                  Thanks for the video.

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                  • koolkc107
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                    #109
                    I'm on the side of folks who say a sale doesn't really affect Haymon's contract with the fighters.

                    We have clues to that as recently as the J-Rock vs Hurd fight.

                    Williams, when thanking Al Haymon, mentioned the fact that it wasn't about the money that motivated him because thanks to Haymon he already had "a million in real estate".

                    Al Haymon is a personal adviser to these fighters and his role goes beyond just boxing. It seems it includes financial planning as well as other services.

                    That just isn't going to be affected by a sale of the PBC, if indeed one is imminent or completed.

                    I get the feeling the folks at Waddell-Reed may be getting out, but Al isn't going anywhere.
                    Last edited by koolkc107; 05-17-2019, 06:13 PM.

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                      #110
                      I mean Damn! They are really trying to put Al Haymon out of business. I mean the very jealous, bitter, resentful, hateful, malicious, vindictive and spiteful people.

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