How was haymon able to give manny $20 mil for thurman?

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  • Curt Henning
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    #11
    Originally posted by killakali
    the biggest reason is al still has some of that Waddell and Teed money left so he isn’t digging into his own pocket. Arum doesn’t have just luxury plus arum lost big money on manny vs bradley 3 and lost a bit on manny vs vargas.
    if al needed money he can get it.....hes not needing it...if he needs to fund a fight he has plenty of places he can go....als "credit" is good with alot of people including a fighter he made a billionaire out of

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    • Motorcity Cobra
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      #12
      Originally posted by Curt Henning
      probably the same reason that bob told floyd he couldnt make the oscar fight for him because "ill lose money"(we know the rest after that dont we).....bob knows he probably would have lost money between pac and crawfords guarantees....and hes not willing to take a loss at this point in the game with the roster he has

      al haymon? he sees the bigger picture....same reason he came up with AJ's 50 million awhile back when everyone couldnt/wouldnt/didnt believe he could and figured that was crazy money for that fight.......if thurman wins its a great launchpad for him and gives him another legit star next to spence in the WW division....and he still has danny sitting around too....

      al would be willing to take a lil loss here if things pan out the way he thinks

      al with recoup any loss pitting the winner against spence and taking that winner to a showdown with crawford
      Heard some news today about Crawford refusing to go to the UK for Brook after Arum said he's trying to make Brook/Crawford later this year in the UK. Might be his last fight them if he's forced to go

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        #13
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        Heard some news today about Crawford refusing to go to the UK for Brook after Arum said he's trying to make Brook/Crawford later this year in the UK. Might be his last fight them if he's forced to go
        i hope thats not true...if it is its a terrible look for crawford.....it would be a great payday and he should have his way with brook and its great exposure for him

        spence had 0 problems

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        • killakali
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          #14
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          if al needed money he can get it.....hes not needing it...if he needs to fund a fight he has plenty of places he can go....als "credit" is good with alot of people including a fighter he made a billionaire out of
          he doesn’t need to do that. He still has part of the Waddell and Reed investor money. That fighter is a multimillionaire but you and I both know he isn’t worth a billion. He doesn’t always make the smartest investments. He might have helped make him a billion but he never had a billion.

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            #15
            Originally posted by killakali
            he doesn’t need to do that. He still has part of the Waddell and Reed investor money. That fighter is a multimillionaire but you and I both know he isn’t worth a billion. He doesn’t always make the smartest investments. He might have helped make him a billion but he never had a billion.
            you dont even understand what floyd does lol....he literally takes small checks every month...hell get one basically as long as he lives....he hasnt taken all his money from his fights all at once.....trust me if al needed to come up with 50 mil real quick he could go to floyd and get it.....id be willing to be floyd aint seen a dime from the pac fight yet.......but youre right...al doesnt need that and has many places he can go first.....al isnt hurting....thats why coming up with pacs guarantee is no problem and worth it to him......he can take the winner to spence and take that winner to crawford and he wont lose a dime

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              #16
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
              Heard some news today about Crawford refusing to go to the UK for Brook after Arum said he's trying to make Brook/Crawford later this year in the UK. Might be his last fight them if he's forced to go
              lol 5 more years on that contract.

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                #17
                If Manny miraculously wins against Thurman, Arum might call him back for the fear of Spence getting to Manny first and collecting that belt, but Manny being a little bit sly might up his price to a minimum of 40 million to fight Crawford. Arum indeed might be scratching his balls this time around.

                Everything that's happening now is part of Al Haymon's grand plan. Spence vs Porter / Thurman vs Pacquiao will end up with Errol Spence collecting 3 belts and then we go to war on the other side with that leverage and ask for a minimum of 75/25 against Crawford. This is why Arum is in a hurry to make the fight now because he had foresaw that moment.

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                  #18
                  I think the old *** might have some money buried in the backyard yet.

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                  • killakali
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    you dont even understand what floyd does lol....he literally takes small checks every month...hell get one basically as long as he lives....he hasnt taken all his money from his fights all at once.....trust me if al needed to come up with 50 mil real quick he could go to floyd and get it.....id be willing to be floyd aint seen a dime from the pac fight yet.......but youre right...al doesnt need that and has many places he can go first.....al isnt hurting....thats why coming up with pacs guarantee is no problem and worth it to him......he can take the winner to spence and take that winner to crawford and he wont lose a dime
                    Al doesn’t really care about making money anyway. It’s about winning the game. He has his own personal wealth.

                    Al still has Waddell and Reed money. That’s a fact.

                    A Pacquiao Spence or crswfour d fight won’t make him all the money back. It’s about power and control.

                    He won’t get all that money back on wilder either.

                    I know floyd has investments and I also know for a fact he’s not a billionaire. I also know he’s been swindled more than once while working with al. Al couldn’t stop it.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by spenz
                      If Manny miraculously wins against Thurman, Arum might call him back for the fear of Spence getting to Manny first and collecting that belt, but Manny being a little bit sly might up his price to a minimum of 40 million to fight Crawford. Arum indeed might be scratching his balls this time around.

                      Everything that's happening now is part of Al Haymon's grand plan. Spence vs Porter / Thurman vs Pacquiao will end up with Errol Spence collecting 3 belts and then we go to war on the other side with that leverage and ask for a minimum of 75/25 against Crawford. This is why Arum is in a hurry to make the fight now because he had foresaw that moment.
                      Everything is going to plan and when Spence has his 3belts its up to 154.There will be no fight at 147 between them.

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