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  • #71
    Originally posted by Curtis2 View Post
    JRock & Bud Crawford, only fighters worth paying PPV IMO...Pac vs Thurman won't do 200K viewers, very poor quality ask of PPV.
    Pac hasnt done lower than 200k since 2007. He is like Saul Alvarez who minimum does 300,000 PPV purchases

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    • #72
      Nice numbers.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
        because live viewers don't equal total amount of subscribers. ESPN reported DAZN generated over 48M in revenue from new subscribers for the Canelo fight. And subscribers paid either 20 bucks or 99 bucks. Laughing at you pretending to not know that you could either subscribe for the month or year. 600K subscribers half being 20 and half being 100 generates 36M in Subscription revenue alone. And for the second time 600K is how many subscribers in the US watched live. Not how many US subscribers they have total. If you pay for DAZN and watch the fight later that night or the next morning ect you still paid DAZN you just didn't watch it live.

        They don't have the same goal as a normal PPV where you just selling 1 event. They are selling a reoccurring subscription service. You paid for 1 month of content or 12 months of content. You think PBC just generated more then 48M in ad time from a program that finished DEAD last on network tv? LMAO

        No the point is you are a phuking idiot. TV ratings have nothing to do with PPV or Subscription based services which are even more different of a business model.

        https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...Media/PBC.aspx

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        Haymon over the past year has bought time on NBC, Fox, CBS, ESPN and Bounce TV to air PBC cards, while Showtime and Spike TV utilize "more conventional financial arrangements with the TV outlets paying Haymon licensing fees." All told, some 50 PBC telecasts "have appeared on weeknights and on Saturday afternoons and evenings." Kantar Media said that PBC collected $12.5M in "total ad revenue from 27 fight telecasts from March through September, an average of $462,963 per show.

        but you dumb azzz thinks Hurd/Williams made more money then DAZN did? When you drawing 20's of millions in TV ratings or 100M viewers on Network TV like the Superbowl you can charge a lot for ads but when you finish deal last almost everytime on network tv when you air you getting very little from advertisers. It's based on your tv ratings which is why they making around that $400,000 range.
        You contradict yourself. You say that 48M in revenue is just because of the Canelo fight then say that all those US viewers who watched weren't new. If 600k watched live then it's safe to assume that some of those were from previous purchases, so that means no new revenue from them. I also don't believe that new people signed up for the fight but didn't watch it

        Also, the only info we get about dazn comes from dazn and this is the first time they've given any info. Also, they can lie since they are not a public company. Even you, with your assumption that half of the "new" viewers did it at $100/yr, could only come up with $36mil in revenue. So since the numbers aren't adding up, I don't believe they generated a profit especially considering the high price tag on the event.

        And then to top it off you using articles from 2016 for your "proof". Dazn losing out here if the money from their entire month can only, and not completely, pay for 1 fight. What about all the other content and stuff they have to pay for?
        Last edited by MC Hammer; 05-16-2019, 01:33 PM.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Detroit29 View Post
          Hurd and Rock are PBC fighters therefore GO PBC!!! NOBODY and I mean NOBODY is just bubbling over when it comes to fights every time out. But at least Haymon has the right idea by putting fighters on television were people can lay eyes on them. Give me that over DAZN anyday.
          Than why is that Elite PBC fighters are not fighting vs elite Top Rank & GBP!
          Pbc got a great stable but wants to keep all the money in house!!!! I just want to see the elite vs elite! But promotional companies have other plans...

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          • #75
            Originally posted by MC Hammer View Post
            You contradict yourself. You say that 48M in revenue is just because of the Canelo fight then say that all those US viewers who watched weren't new. If 600k watched live then it's safe to assume that some of those were from previous purchases, so that means no new revenue from them. I also don't believe that new people signed up for the fight but didn't watch it

            Also, the only info we get about dazn comes from dazn and this is the first time they've given any info. Also, they can lie since they are not a public company. Even you, with your assumption that half of the "new" viewers did it at $100/yr, could only come up with $36mil in revenue. So since the numbers aren't adding up, I don't believe they generated a profit especially considering the high price tag on the event.

            And then to top it off you using articles from 2016 for your "proof". Dazn losing out here if the money from their entire month can only, and not completely, pay for 1 fight. What about all the other content and stuff they have to pay for?
            Are you ****** or just can't read? I didn't say the ones who didn't watch live are not new subscribers I said not every new subscriber watched live. You do get DAZN is a ******ing app where everything is accessible whenever you want? That's the beauty of the APP you subscribe and can watch on your timeline not like a PPV where you have to watch it live and once it's over you can't watch again or if it's Showtime you have to wait a week for it to be ondemand. once it starts airing live on DAZN it's immediately ondemand. You could be a subscriber that watched it 1 hour after or the next day or whenever was convienent for you. That was my point the 600K is just the subscribers who watched live, that's just the live viewing number the overall subscribers is much more then that because DAZN is a live and ondemand app you watch when YOU want. The fight did over 48M from new subscribers that's reported not by me but by ESPN. And of course it makes sense you are not counting $99 subscriptions and keep talking about 600k subscriptions when that's the live viewers not total new subscribers. Live views and subscriptions are two different things
            Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-16-2019, 07:04 PM.

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