Comments Thread For: Williams-Hurd FOX Broadcast Peaked At 2,108,000 Viewers

[Oldskoolg]

But But But PBC tho...Dead tho. This actually did better than 2 super stars in Canelo Jacobs. The average did better as well with 1.4 million viewers. Keep Hatin. #Al Haymon #PBC.

Word up son!

[JaBfromTokyo]

Oh boy...people claiming to have facts yet are talking out of their behind.

Let's actually talk numbers, line by line, apples to apples.

Average Audience Figures - 2019 (before the Hurd/Williams fight)

PBC Fight Night on FOX- 1.535 million
Top Rank Boxing ESPN - 676,00
Showtime Boxing- 298,000
UFC Fight Night on ESPN 1.167 million

What does the above say? In 2019, not only is PBC on FOX dominating boxing viewership..it's actually the most watched COMBAT SPORT ON FREE TV. Yes, PBC on FOX is annihilating the UFC in 2019. You can't pull numbers from UFC on FOX in 2016 and compare it to PBC on FOX in 2019..it has to be present day, apples to apples..in this climate.

Through 4/21, American's have consumed over 2.1 billion minutes of live boxing events among the major sports networks. Here is the % breakdown
FOX- 46%
Showtime- 13%
FS1- 18%
ESPN - 21%
ESPN 2 2%

PBC controls 76% of the boxing content

Does anything else really have to be said? Anything else is just biased opinion, these are line by line, apples to apples comparisons during the same time period and climate.

The thing is...PBC on FOX numbers are only going to increase, remember, this is a thorough RE-INTRODUCTION of boxing to the American public.

The more fighters appear on FOX, the better it is for boxing. Their shoulder programming has been second to none.

Conclusion: (remember, this is based on actual facts..not biased opinion)

Boxing is continuing to pick up steam in America, and is THE most watched combat sport in the USA on free television in the year 2019. This is due to PBC on FOX and PBC on FOX only.

Sorry guys, I wish I can twist this..but the numbers speak for themselves.

[Oldskoolg]

The Thurman/Lopez card did better ratings than the Charlo card.

LIS no need to fear, Errol Spence is here to bail them out.

Boxing no where is putting great ratings minus great lead ins. The test for the PBC series on FOX is how they do with getting Smackdown promotion and NFL promotion. Either that or they need to increase their budget to get better fight cards. Though FOX has put on good entertaining cards and Spence/Porter is a fairly big fight.

I remember reading that onenof the reasons FOX went with PBC is because it was a cheaper contract than Ufc. The only thing PBC is doing wrong is not stacking its ppvs with sexy fights. Back in the day Don King used to put on ppvs wherein we were just as excited to see the co main event as we were the main event

[Sledgeweather17]

JRock & Bud Crawford, only fighters worth paying PPV IMO...Pac vs Thurman won't do 200K viewers, very poor quality ask of PPV.

Pac-Broner did 400K and you think Pac-Thurman will do less?

What logic did you use if in fact logic is involved in this statement?

[Bobby Deez]

That was a great fight. The type of stuff that turns casuals into hardcores.

Boy, you know thats right. Green k.

[b Murphington]

Boy, you know thats right. Green k.

Green K coming from you is like a giving myself a never ending stranger.

Thank you. Stay sexy. I know you will.

[Curtis2]

Pac-Broner did 400K and you think Pac-Thurman will do less?

What logic did you use if in fact logic is involved in this statement?

Simple logic. Did you watch their last fight? Pac vs Broner & Thurman vs Lopez...there's your answer to logic...
Pac vs Thurman = trash PPV...

[MC Hammer]

DAZN has been around only 2 and a half years as a company, half the countries they are in just launched months ago and specifically they only been around in the US like 8 months and still just generated 48M in revenue from new subscribers for the canelo fight alone. There is almost nothing you can compare DAZN to and how fast they have grown. DAZN is a subscription service that made money on the canelo fight

FOX is on Network TV available in 116M homes for FREE and there is tons of comps last weekend alone, other sporting events on network TV and even with UFC on FOX same network as PBC these numbers aren't good for Network TV. I have no clue why you bringing up DAZN and the fact they had by all accounts a huge weekend to FOX pulling dead last in network TV ratings? I dont want to hear about unknown fighters when the UFC pulled much higher ratings on the regular with lesser know fighters.

How did they generate 48M from the canelo fight when they only had 1.2mil people view? Many of those viewers were there before, at least 50% because that's how many is reported cam from the other countries, not to mention the dazn subscribers they already had in the US. at $20 a piece that 600k is 12mil.

I'm bringing up Dazn because Canelo was supposedly bringing in 1mil+ ppvs at 75+ a piece and now he's doing less than half at less than a third of the price. This is bringing in huge losses yet you brag on that while simultaneously putting down the PBC fight which cost less and got into more homes. Hurd and J-Rock probably made more from ads than Dazn did from subscriptions. My purpose is to point out the double standard.

[MC Hammer]

It couldn't have been 1.2mil world wide for Canelos fight. In Mexico alone it was over 33 MILLON buys! Look it up for your self.

Not on dazn tho. That's what they talking about.

[bigdunny1]

How did they generate 48M from the canelo fight when they only had 1.2mil people view? Many of those viewers were there before, at least 50% because that's how many is reported cam from the other countries, not to mention the dazn subscribers they already had in the US. at $20 a piece that 600k is 12mil.

I'm bringing up Dazn because Canelo was supposedly bringing in 1mil+ ppvs at 75+ a piece and now he's doing less than half at less than a third of the price. This is bringing in huge losses yet you brag on that while simultaneously putting down the PBC fight which cost less and got into more homes. Hurd and J-Rock probably made more from ads than Dazn did from subscriptions. My purpose is to point out the double standard.

because live viewers don't equal total amount of subscribers. ESPN reported DAZN generated over 48M in revenue from new subscribers for the Canelo fight. And subscribers paid either 20 bucks or 99 bucks. Laughing at you pretending to not know that you could either subscribe for the month or year. 600K subscribers half being 20 and half being 100 generates 36M in Subscription revenue alone. And for the second time 600K is how many subscribers in the US watched live. Not how many US subscribers they have total. If you pay for DAZN and watch the fight later that night or the next morning ect you still paid DAZN you just didn't watch it live.

They don't have the same goal as a normal PPV where you just selling 1 event. They are selling a reoccurring subscription service. You paid for 1 month of content or 12 months of content. You think PBC just generated more then 48M in ad time from a program that finished DEAD last on network tv? LMAO

No the point is you are a phuking idiot. TV ratings have nothing to do with PPV or Subscription based services which are even more different of a business model.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2016/02/03/Media/PBC.aspx

EDIT:


Haymon over the past year has bought time on NBC, Fox, CBS, ESPN and Bounce TV to air PBC cards, while Showtime and Spike TV utilize "more conventional financial arrangements with the TV outlets paying Haymon licensing fees." All told, some 50 PBC telecasts "have appeared on weeknights and on Saturday afternoons and evenings." Kantar Media said that PBC collected $12.5M in "total ad revenue from 27 fight telecasts from March through September, an average of $462,963 per show.

but you dumb azzz thinks Hurd/Williams made more money then DAZN did? When you drawing 20's of millions in TV ratings or 100M viewers on Network TV like the Superbowl you can charge a lot for ads but when you finish deal last almost everytime on network tv when you air you getting very little from advertisers. It's based on your tv ratings which is why they making around that $400,000 range.