Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Wanted Best Available Guy in Thurman, Says Gibbons

[Bronx2245]

here's what happens when you keep posting links and using it as facts.. LOL!!

January 5, 2017:

Roach: Crawford Was Only Pacquiao Opponent Arum Mentioned

“The last time I talked to Arum,” Roach said, “he called me up and he told me that Crawford is the guy we’re trying to make and so forth. And he said, ‘You’re gonna have to fight him sooner or later. You might be better off fighting him now. What weight do you want?,’ and so forth. So I said, ‘If we do fight him, we’ll fight him at 47 [welterweight]. Bring him up in weight, maybe slow him down a little bit.’ I know he does have a little bit of trouble making 40 [super lightweight], but I think he’ll be maybe not as quick and as good a fighter at 47...”

“[Arum] asked me to get ahold of Manny,” Roach added about their conversation two weeks ago. “I tried to get ahold of Manny, but Manny’s on vacation with his kids. He takes them to a new country every year and so forth, so I can’t find him right now. But now [Arum] tells me that Mike Koncz [gave] him another opponent. So I guess he’s been talking to Arum, also. But Arum only gave me one name and that was the only name he gave me, was Terence Crawford.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/roach-cr...tioned--112366



June 1, 2017:

Roach: Crawford Who? That Won't Sell, Pacquiao-Garcia Will!

After Crawford's most recent win from three weeks ago, when he demolished Olympic gold medal winner Felix Diaz, he called for a fight with Pacquiao.

But Roach is not a big fan of the fight, and says the reason are strictly financial for his fighter.

Roach would much rather have him face three division world champion Mikey Garcia or former two division champion Danny Garcia.

“Who’s Terence Crawford?” said Roach to ABS-CBN News. “Popularity-wise, I think Mikey Garcia is the best option, because it will pit Mexican versus Filipino,” he added. But I like Danny Garcia the best.”

“(Danny) came all the way to my gym and they don’t like me. But he shook my hand and said, ‘I want Manny Pacquiao. I said okay, but they got to talk to Michael Koncz and Manny.”

According to Roach, he doesn't believe a black fighter being matched against a Filipino will do good business on pay-per-view. Other than Pacquiao's mega-fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr., Roach indicates that Pacquiao's numbers against black fighters on pay-per-view have not been impressive.

But Pacquiao did over a million buys for Shane Mosley, who at the time was viewed as a big underdog. And Pacquiao's numbers against Joshua Clottey, who was unknown, generated around 700,000 buys.

https://www.boxingscene.com/roach-cr...garcia--117152

December 1, 2017:

Roach: Arum 'Pushing For' Pacquiao-Crawford; Fight Concerns Me

Roach told a small group of reporters following a press conference for the Cotto-Ali fight that Bob Arum wants to make a Manny Pacquiao-Terence Crawford fight in 2018. The 85-year-old promoter previously was reluctant to match Pacquiao, who’ll turn 39 on December 17, against the 30-year-old Crawford, presumably because the highly skilled Crawford would’ve presented a troublesome style for Pacquiao...

“Arum wants Pacquiao to fight Crawford,” Roach said. “I’m a little bit concerned about that fight. It’s a tough fight. Crawford’s a young guy, coming up and so forth, and Manny probably has seen his best days behind him. But I will still train him and get him ready for that fight, if that does happen. And they’re pushing for it, so it might.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/roach-ar...rns-me--122974

[Pennstate110]

Lol you've been served sit down *****

[IceTrayDaGang]

January 5, 2017:

Roach: Crawford Was Only Pacquiao Opponent Arum Mentioned

“The last time I talked to Arum,” Roach said, “he called me up and he told me that Crawford is the guy we’re trying to make and so forth. And he said, ‘You’re gonna have to fight him sooner or later. You might be better off fighting him now. What weight do you want?,’ and so forth. So I said, ‘If we do fight him, we’ll fight him at 47 [welterweight]. Bring him up in weight, maybe slow him down a little bit.’ I know he does have a little bit of trouble making 40 [super lightweight], but I think he’ll be maybe not as quick and as good a fighter at 47...”

“[Arum] asked me to get ahold of Manny,” Roach added about their conversation two weeks ago. “I tried to get ahold of Manny, but Manny’s on vacation with his kids. He takes them to a new country every year and so forth, so I can’t find him right now. But now [Arum] tells me that Mike Koncz [gave] him another opponent. So I guess he’s been talking to Arum, also. But Arum only gave me one name and that was the only name he gave me, was Terence Crawford.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/roach-cr...tioned--112366



June 1, 2017:

Roach: Crawford Who? That Won't Sell, Pacquiao-Garcia Will!

After Crawford's most recent win from three weeks ago, when he demolished Olympic gold medal winner Felix Diaz, he called for a fight with Pacquiao.

But Roach is not a big fan of the fight, and says the reason are strictly financial for his fighter.

Roach would much rather have him face three division world champion Mikey Garcia or former two division champion Danny Garcia.

“Who’s Terence Crawford?” said Roach to ABS-CBN News. “Popularity-wise, I think Mikey Garcia is the best option, because it will pit Mexican versus Filipino,” he added. But I like Danny Garcia the best.”

“(Danny) came all the way to my gym and they don’t like me. But he shook my hand and said, ‘I want Manny Pacquiao. I said okay, but they got to talk to Michael Koncz and Manny.”

According to Roach, he doesn't believe a black fighter being matched against a Filipino will do good business on pay-per-view. Other than Pacquiao's mega-fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr., Roach indicates that Pacquiao's numbers against black fighters on pay-per-view have not been impressive.

But Pacquiao did over a million buys for Shane Mosley, who at the time was viewed as a big underdog. And Pacquiao's numbers against Joshua Clottey, who was unknown, generated around 700,000 buys.

https://www.boxingscene.com/roach-cr...garcia--117152

December 1, 2017:

Roach: Arum 'Pushing For' Pacquiao-Crawford; Fight Concerns Me

Roach told a small group of reporters following a press conference for the Cotto-Ali fight that Bob Arum wants to make a Manny Pacquiao-Terence Crawford fight in 2018. The 85-year-old promoter previously was reluctant to match Pacquiao, who’ll turn 39 on December 17, against the 30-year-old Crawford, presumably because the highly skilled Crawford would’ve presented a troublesome style for Pacquiao...

“Arum wants Pacquiao to fight Crawford,” Roach said. “I’m a little bit concerned about that fight. It’s a tough fight. Crawford’s a young guy, coming up and so forth, and Manny probably has seen his best days behind him. But I will still train him and get him ready for that fight, if that does happen. And they’re pushing for it, so it might.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/roach-ar...rns-me--122974

i mean i can play this game too lol --

FREDDIE ROACH “MANNY WAS NEVER OFFERED CRAWFORD FIGHT”

[Bronx2245]

you just said he changed his mind after seeing what danny did to granados. you cant have it both ways bruh. if manny was looking for easy fights or guys coming off bad performances then why didnt he pick mikey garcia???

Why does it offend you so much, that Manny picked the guy with the worst performance? The title of this thread is "Pacquiao Wanted the Best Available Guy." Spence and Crawford were available! Mr. Gibbons is incorrect! Everyone knows that! Get over it! It's still a GREAT fight! I'll be happy to pay my $70! Isn't that enough? Or must I say, Keith Thurman is the best WW in boxing?

[IceTrayDaGang]

"Pacquiao names amir khan, crawford and loma"

[Bronx2245]

i mean i can play this game too lol --

FREDDIE ROACH “MANNY WAS NEVER OFFERED CRAWFORD FIGHT”

This is why you lost so many debates with me when Floyd vs. Manny wasn't happening! I love it! I notice your link is from the Pacquiao vs. Broner fight in 2019! Mine are from the time in question, when Crawford and Pacquiao were BOTH at Top Rank! You and Freddie are very similar, and both still losing! LMAO!

[IceTrayDaGang]

Why does it offend you so much, that Manny picked the guy with the worst performance? The title of this thread is "Pacquiao Wanted the Best Available Guy." Spence and Crawford were available! Mr. Gibbons is incorrect! Everyone knows that! Get over it! It's still a GREAT fight! I'll be happy to pay my $70! Isn't that enough? Or must I say, Keith Thurman is the best WW in boxing?

it doesnt offend me but i like to call a BS a BS. you still cant answer what you've been trying to convince me. if manny was looking for the worst performance then why didnt he fight mikey garcia???? LOL!!!

[Bronx2245]

it doesnt offend me but i like to call a BS a BS. you still cant answer what you've been trying to convince me. if manny was looking for the worst performance then why didnt he fight mikey garcia???? LOL!!!

This will be my final attempt!

PBC WW Fights of 2019:

January 19, 2019: Pacquiao vs. Broner
January 26, 2019: Thurman vs. Lopez
March 16, 2019: Spence vs. Garcia
April 20, 2019: Garcia vs. Granados

All the highlighted names won their fights! Out of those who won their fights, Thurman had the worst performance! Spence, after totally dominating Mikey Garcia in front of 47K, said he would be honored to fight Pacquiao! Manny waited, and decided NOT to fight Spence, but chose (Manny is the A-side) Keith Thurman! Had he chosen Mikey Garcia, after Mikey did not win one single round vs. Spence, he would've been humiliated! Now, call it coincidence, or call it whatever you want, but Mr. Gibbons is incorrect! Pacquiao did NOT choose the "BEST AVAILABLE!" Spence and Crawford are the "BEST AVAILABLE!" I still give Manny his props b/c Thurman is the "MOST PROVEN" Welterweight! I can't wait to chat with you on July 21st! LOL!

[hugh grant]

Why does it offend you so much, that Manny picked the guy with the worst performance? The title of this thread is "Pacquiao Wanted the Best Available Guy." Spence and Crawford were available! Mr. Gibbons is incorrect! Everyone knows that! Get over it! It's still a GREAT fight! I'll be happy to pay my $70! Isn't that enough? Or must I say, Keith Thurman is the best WW in boxing?

WHo the best guy is subjective. Thurman has a better resume than SPence or Crawford so you can claim Pac did pick the best guy.
SPence and Crawford haven't got a win over Thurman so how can you claim they are better?
Just cos Thurman struggled with Lopez? Well Spence and Crawford haven't proved they can beat Lopez.
Flooyd fought Berto and he certainly weren't the best, neither was Connor McGrgor. Floyd ducked Thurman.
So your crying over that pac beating Thurman will make Pac FOTD once again.

[Bronx2245]

WHo the best guy is subjective. Thurman has a better resume than SPence or Crawford so you can claim Pac did pick the best guy.
SPence and Crawford haven't got a win over Thurman so how can you claim they are better?
Just cos Thurman struggled with Lopez? Well Spence and Crawford haven't proved they can beat Lopez.
Flooyd fought Berto and he certainly weren't the best, neither was Connor McGrgor. Floyd ducked Thurman.
So your crying over that pac beating Thurman will make Pac FOTD once again.

Sir, no one is crying! I am very happy with the fight! If you want to believe that Josesito Lopez is better than Spence and Crawford, go right ahead! If you want to believe that Pac beating Thurman makes him the FOTD, feel free! I you think Floyd "ducked" Thurman, that's your choice! Floyd didn't duck Oscar! Floyd didn't duck Cotto! Floyd didn't duck Canelo! Floyd didn't duck Pacquiao! He beat all 4! However, that was in a different decade, so it's irrelevant!