If Pacquiao beats Thurman he has to rank over Floyd historically

[QueensburyRules]

Not a Floyd fan here, but HOW on EARTH do people keep saying Manny won that fight? He wasn’t destroyed or anything, but it was a CLEAR loss for him.

Only Pro fights Mayweather should not have won in my opinion are:
Castillo I (Loss)
Cotto (Draw)

- -Oh dear , oh yes, let us bring up the infamous 6 years too late fight that netted them so much $$$ that boxings media bean counters couldn't count it all because it was so global.

They can be excused since they too often can't do the 3rd grade arithmetic needed to add up 3 scorecards properly.

TUE 50-0 also whooped twice by Maidana and is DQ in every jurisdiction save a TUE fight in Vegas where he and they committed their fraud when Roger stormed the ring against Judah, that's DQ much less fight with the ref trying to get to Judah that started a riot .

If you sweeties want to give TUE a win over Manny in spite of running from a one armed dwarf after ducking him for 6 yrs and making false drug accusations that TUE was actually guilty of?

Gonna be on you and your ilk when you try for admittance to Valhalla where all the greatest unmade and fantasy fights by the greatest fighters get made.

You and he ain't making the cut but probably there's an intergalactic dump somewhere where you can ooh and ahh over TUE mopping the floors.

Enjoy!

[TonyGe]

Not a Floyd fan here, but HOW on EARTH do people keep saying Manny won that fight? He wasn’t destroyed or anything, but it was a CLEAR loss for him.

Only Pro fights Mayweather should not have won in my opinion are:
Castillo I (Loss)
Cotto (Draw)

Personally I thought PAC made the fight. Floyd spent a lot of time avoiding Pac. That time he spent retreating is time he didn't fight. It wasn't fighting on the back foot it was clearly avoiding combat. How can he be given credit for winning rounds when he was in a purely defensive posture too often. Manny did not get credit for his defense. Blocking and slipping punches. Yes he missed a lot but so did Floyd. I thought Floyd looked old in this fight. Floyd IMO got credit for punches that did not land. I don't care what compubox claims. Manny landed the harder punches, he made the fight. Floyd gave up too many rounds due to running. If others think Floyd won fine. I thought he lost. Evander Holyfield said same thing. When I was watching the fight I got the impression that Floyd could win those rounds if he would have stood more in spots and fought Pacquiao.

[The Big Dunn]

There are so many reasons why a boxer can lose and it's nothing to do with not being great. People take each loss individually on its own merits.
Pac fought out of country and was robbed and old.
Yes, a thurman win will erase a horn loss. To suggest it won't would be as naive as saying if Pac beat usyk now it can't erase his loss to sinsurat?.
Simply because the horn loss is no big deal. The horn loss dont erase Pac s 8 division titles away. Your making too much of floyds unbeaten record

I didn’t mention anything about his undefeated record. I just posted that losses need to be factored in. The losses take away the same way the wins add.

Beating Barrera is great, beating hatton is good, losing to Horn and others not so much. Manny also lost to the best guy he faced. That matters.

Only manny fans want losses not to count when assessing manny’s career but when it’s anyone else you want the losses to count.

[The Big Dunn]

hope this answer your question --

No it doesn’t. That is shoulder Rolls opinion. While I respect him and it a great deal many disagree with him and think horn won. Horn got the official verdict.

Manny fans can’t just go with opinion only when it helps you. If that’s the case many feel he lost all 4 to jmm. You can’t pick and choose when you go with opinions when you go with official results

[HanzGruber]

Personally I thought PAC made the fight. Floyd spent a lot of time avoiding Pac. That time he spent retreating is time he didn't fight. It wasn't fighting on the back foot it was clearly avoiding combat. How can he be given credit for winning rounds when he was in a purely defensive posture too often. Manny did not get credit for his defense. Blocking and slipping punches. Yes he missed a lot but so did Floyd. I thought Floyd looked old in this fight. Floyd IMO got credit for punches that did not land. I don't care what compubox claims. Manny landed the harder punches, he made the fight. Floyd gave up too many rounds due to running. If others think Floyd won fine. I thought he lost. Evander Holyfield said same thing. When I was watching the fight I got the impression that Floyd could win those rounds if he would have stood more in spots and fought Pacquiao.

Holyfield can barely tie his shoes 1 person saying doesn’t make it more valid lol. You don’t get credit for walking forward and missing punches

[TonyGe]

Holyfield can barely tie his shoes 1 person saying doesn’t make it more valid lol. You don’t get credit for walking forward and missing punches

You also don't get credit for back pedaling madly and not throwing any punches. Sorry but running isn't defense. I really don't care how many other people agree. I was asked why I thought Pacquiao won and I gave my reasons.

[IceTrayDaGang]

No it doesn’t. That is shoulder Rolls opinion. While I respect him and it a great deal many disagree with him and think horn won. Horn got the official verdict.

Manny fans can’t just go with opinion only when it helps you. If that’s the case many feel he lost all 4 to jmm. You can’t pick and choose when you go with opinions when you go with official results

no, only the floyd fans feel he loss to jmm all 4 fights. the difference is, im posting a post from a floyd fan saying that manny got robbed in the horn fight lol. that's the difference. now if you can show me a post from a pac fan saying manny loss all 4 fights to jmm then you might have a point here lol!!!!

so horn beat manny so that should put a dent on manny's legacy? is that what you're trying to convince me? ok, well, then that will also put a dent on floyd's win over manny. lol. you catch my drift playa? lol..

[famicommander]

Floyd was 24-0-0-0 against current or former world champions, including Pacquiao.

Pacquiao has 7 losses and 2 draws, and not all were against world champions.

Just get over it already. A washed up, brittle-hands Floyd already beat a younger Pacquiao. Floyd is the best of this generation.

[thedarkdragon11]

Floyd was 24-0-0-0 against current or former world champions, including Pacquiao.

Pacquiao has 7 losses and 2 draws, and not all were against world champions.

Just get over it already. A washed up, brittle-hands Floyd already beat a younger Pacquiao. Floyd is the best of this generation.

This made my day...

[IceTrayDaGang]

No it doesn’t. That is shoulder Rolls opinion. While I respect him and it a great deal many disagree with him and think horn won. Horn got the official verdict.

Manny fans can’t just go with opinion only when it helps you. If that’s the case many feel he lost all 4 to jmm. You can’t pick and choose when you go with opinions when you go with official results

but you also thought manny won?? LOL!!! you dont ever get tired of getting exposed brah? lol

Come jb. Haven't seen you in a while. Hope all is good.

I thought Manny won a close one and said so as I was scoring in the rbr stickied thread. I did think it was close and could see the 115-113 score for horn even though I had Manny winning. The 117-11 score was criminal