Per ESPN Canelo vs Jacobs generated more then 48M in subscriptions

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #101
    Originally posted by bigdunny1
    yes I put weight on a HBO exec and clout like Evan Rutkowski and Fat Boy Dan is quoting Revenue numbers that don't match up with 600K subscribers no matter how you try and spin it.
    The article says this is new money not just US money/US subs.

    Its also worth noting that 1.2M overall worldwide number is the more important number concerning this revenue number (and even thats not necessarily as meaningful as we wanna make it out to be) than the 700k peak worldwide numbers & the 600k peak US numbers.

    And its worth noting that DAZN doesn't got the same options worldwide. So who knows how these worldwide new sub revenue numbers could breakdown.

    DAZN USA is $20/mo or $100/yr
    DAZN Japan is $16USD/mo
    DAZN Canada is $15USD/mo or $111USD/yr
    DAZN Switzerland is $13USD/mo
    DAZN Austria is $11USD/mo
    DAZN Italy is $11USD/mo
    DAZN Germany is $9USD/mo

    Couldn't find anything on Brazil & Spain yet as I don't believe they are active yet.

    *rounded up at 51cents or higher, down at 50cents or lower

    But obviously you can see how many different ways one could come up with $48M in new subs. I mean just looking at the max monthly price on the board $111USD in Canada could generate up to $133M in new revenue for DAZN for the month of May 2019. The key phrase being up to. Obviously its some combo of monthly & yearly subs that came up with this number but its entirely doable just using that 1.2M max people that watched Canelo vs Jacobs as the max potential new subs.

    And its also worth noting that just cuz someone sub'd to DAZN during fight week they mighta not watched the fight or simply plan to watch it later so there are many more variables in play here than anyone wants to get into. Its complicated since its a streaming product. Its really f#cking complicated people & we are working off of the crumbs of data we can find that are publicly out there or leaked.
    Last edited by Eff Pandas; 05-09-2019, 01:43 PM.

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    • bigdunny1
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      #102
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      who claimed it only sold 85k? I believe that as much as I believe you and bigliar1 that it is over 1 mil.

      I have no vendetta against DAZN. Just looking to see how many US subs they've sold.

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        #103
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        I know you can't read well but look at the 1st sentence in the post.
        No you didn't. Stop playing and answer my direct question? How many do you think they have? stop tap dancing

        Originally posted by Bigdunny1
        Yes you are butt sore and we all know it. you pick and choose what source to believe we BOTH know there are 2 sources who said days before the fight they were close to 1M subscribers. But you keep throwing out Lance who is simply assuming the live viewers is the same as subscribers which is not the same. Then you said that Bellator and the rest of DAZN isn't bringing in a subscribers which is just dumb. So far the most creditable person to speak on how many subscribers DAZN has is Evan Rutkowski

        According to Evan Rutkowski, a former HBO executive, DAZN is close to 1 million subscribers and will likely reach that target on Cinco de Mayo weekend.
        And the live viewers and ESPN reported revenue all lean towards it being likely they are at or close to 1M subscribers. Bellator alone sends DAZN their biggest fights that would normally be on PPV. And they have other content then just Canelo fights and like many told you already many who have DAZN either didn't watch it live (watched it ondemand after it was over) or were in Vegas or house parties etc. It's common sense there are more subscriptions DAZN has on top of the 600K live viewers because that's how streaming apps work the whole point of it is the convenience of being able to watch this or that and live or when you want. If you think any app not just DAZN has 100% of all their subscribers watching live at the same time you are just a phuking idiot and don't understand how subscription apps work.

        So I ask you again how many subscribers you think they have stop dancing around and answer the question? Do you think it's 600K like Lance is saying and like you keep quoting then hiding behind saying well I'm not saying I said that or think that BS. Is it likely 1M or close to it or 600K? Lance is the LEAST creditable of anyone who have spoken on DAZN subscribers or their business. yes I put weight on a HBO exec and clout like Evan Rutkowski and Fat Boy Dan is quoting Revenue numbers that don't match up with 600K subscribers no matter how you try and spin it.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #104
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Less than 1 million is how many subscriptions I think they have.

          From the LA times yesterday:

          Executives at the streaming service DAZN were thrilled Wednesday by an internal report that showed 1.2 million worldwide viewers for Saturday’s middleweight title victory by Canelo Alvarez.




          1. The revenue is clearly worldwide and not just the US.
          2. Skipper as of last month, prior to this fight, didn't expect Subs to pass 1 mil US until the GGG/rolls fight.

          Now if he didn't think it would surpass 1 mil subs until June 8, that means it likely is a lot lower than you have been saying. I guess he is a DAZN hating butt hurt PBC shill as well.

          Man GTFOH and go 69 with frankie0jobs. You lost alot of credibility between this and your defense of the problems people reported.

          It is absolutely fair for any of us boxing fans to ask questions about how many subscriptions DAZN has sold.
          Originally posted by bigdunny1
          ?????? lol Stop playing games I asked you a direct question
          see bolded and underlined above. to make it easy for you since reading is hard for you- DAZN US subs < 1,000,000

          or if you can't understand that it this way 1,000,000 > DAZN US subscription total.

          I have no idea the exact number. I am going to throw out a guess 750-800k, which is < 1,000,000.
          Last edited by The Big Dunn; 05-09-2019, 01:51 PM.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #105
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            who claimed it only sold 85k? I believe that as much as I believe you and bigliar1 that it is over 1 mil.

            I have no vendetta against DAZN. Just looking to see how many US subs they've sold.
            I don’t understand this quest to find out if it broke a 1million...

            Retention and disclosed revenue is all that matters when contextualizing what goes against PPV.

            Compare to Crawford Khan and Mikey Garcia or Wilder vs Fury. Canelo vs Jacobs was a one off event just like those. So with the 48million net, what’s the purpose or quest for subs? ESPN+ is a more prolific brand name in sports. DAZN just starting and niche for combat sports and last weekends metrics, surely you DAZN haters are trolling about success...

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            • bigdunny1
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              #106
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              see bolded and underlined above
              is that a number or a answer to which is more likely the true subscriptions? Give me a number of what you think? Why you on some donald trump shyt I'm not saying but other people are saying then hiding behind lance bs that you can't even say yes I believe. you fraud azz coward. Still waiting for your answer don't bytch up now...

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                #107
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                see bolded and underlined above. to make it easy for you since reading is hard for you- DAZN US subs < 1,000,000

                or if you can't understand that it this way 1,000,000 > DAZN US subscription total.

                I have no idea the exact number. I am going to throw out a guess 750-800k, which is < 1,000,000.
                Bravo you finally manned up. THANK YOU.

                I disagree with that amount but ok we are not far off from each other we can at least both agree Lance is full of shyt and YOU don't even believe so stop throwing 600K around in this bytch.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
                  I don’t understand this quest to find out if it broke a 1million...

                  Retention and disclosed revenue is all that matters when contextualizing what goes against PPV.

                  Compare to Crawford Khan and Mikey Garcia or Wilder vs Fury. Canelo vs Jacobs was a one off event just like those. So with the 48million net, what’s the purpose or quest for subs? ESPN+ is a more prolific brand name in sports. DAZN just starting and niche for combat sports and last weekends metrics, surely you DAZN haters are trolling about success...
                  That is the number you and bigdunny1 are going with as the 2 biggest dazn promoters on NSB so I am trying to see if its true or not.

                  ESPN+ doesn't have a pair of lying c-ck gurglers touting how great the product is and attacking anyone that asks a question or posted about the problems they had with the service this Saturday.

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by bigdunny1
                    is that a number or a answer to which is more likely the true subscriptions? Give me a number of what you think? Why you on some donald trump shyt I'm not saying but other people are saying then hiding behind lance bs that you can't even say yes I believe. you fraud azz coward. Still waiting for your answer don't bytch up now...

                    Ask all these DAZN hatin LDBC troopers if $48 million is good revenue for an event..

                    Pages and pages of dumb reasons of these guys trying to prove it wasn’t...

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      That is the number you and bigdunny1 are going with as the 2 biggest dazn promoters on NSB so I am trying to see if its true or not.

                      ESPN+ doesn't have a pair of lying c-ck gurglers touting how great the product is and attacking anyone that asks a question or posted about the problems they had with the service this Saturday.
                      What number? $48million?

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