3 things I learned about Wilder this week.

[The Big Dunn]

Then i apologize sir. I never realized their complete horse **** and your complete horse **** being EXACTLY THE SAME HORSE **** was just a coincidence. Please accept my most sincere apologies.

The reason it sounds the same is you are doing the exact same thing Frankie0jobs and dramashow and others are doing. You are just late to the party. All of you have the same M.O. yet wonder why the responses you get are the same on every site you go to.

I notice you still haven't posted a link backing up the claims you made in the initial post.

[The Big Dunn]

No I think Canelo fans in general are the same way. The difference is I think they don't watch videos to get their talking points - I think they just start coming out organically on these message boards and the hive mind thinking comes organically.

From what I have seen of the LDBC videos in the past, the points they make on their are very odd sometimes and then that exact point would catch on. Just seems like the talking points come from there often imo.

I think the 'Eastern Euro' fans' opinions are honestly more all over the place than a hive mind. There may be a lot of support for the same fighter(s) but the criticism of those fighters seems more varied to me. Seems like people in those groups have different opinions on fairly big issues (such as the scores in some GGG fights, or Loma fights, for example).

So its the Mexican and Black fans that share the same talking poitns, But not the Eastern European fans.

Got it.

Can you offer examples? Not sure exactly what you are getting at there to be honest.

Once you give me examples of the talking points I asked you about.

[Boxing_1013]

I don't watch their videos.

Facts are not talking points. The reason things are similar is because the same lying race baiting tools that go to those sites then come here and post the same garbage and lies. people use the same facts on both sites to refute that.

How you find that as an indication of sharing the same talking points is unbelievably ignorant.

Give me an example of the "talking points" you are referring to.

Example-if I bring up Hearn lying about wanting to make the AJ/Wilder fight initially isn't based of something from another site, that is my conclusion after reading all the facts. When I post Haymon is blocking it now, same thing.

The clearest ones to me are how they almost universally have the same opinion about anything to do with Ward, GGG and Mayweather. And Wilder and Joshua.

Just seems like an us vs them mentality they are starting with, and they are using whatever story they can, even if it isn't really supported by the facts, to help build their overall narrative.

Some of the points made are really pretty ridiculous and not backed up by the data, so when you start to see the same points made, on all those different fighters, it makes you think.

Especially when there is no balance to their analysis - everything that the 'other guy' does is awful. Everything 'their guy' does is the greatest. They start with the end result in mind and try to build their story around it, facts don't seem to matter.

[DaNeutral.]

The reason it sounds the same is you are doing the exact same thing Frankie0jobs and dramashow and others are doing. You are just late to the party. All of you have the same M.O. yet wonder why the responses you get are the same on every site you go to.

I notice you still haven't posted a link backing up the claims you made in the initial post.

What is my MO then? I dont know how to post vids or timestamp them.

[Boxing_1013]

So its the Mexican and Black fans that share the same talking poitns, But not the Eastern European fans.

Got it.



Once you give me examples of the talking points I asked you about.

I just did.

I think it's pretty clear that most Canelo fans agree 90% of the time, and Ward/Mayweather/Wilder fans agree on 90% of the stuff on here. I didn't say black btw.

Some Eastern Euro fans really like Loma, some really like GGG. I had Loma up 5-4 on Linares at the stoppage. Some Loma fans had him up big. A lot didn't. Stuff like that.

Seems like on the 'big issues' for those fighters there is more of a wide range of opinions there, just my observation.

[QueensburyRules]

- - I remember Deyonce fighting Jason Gavern on the undercard at Stub Hub 5 years ago.

Might've been a dozen in attendence, maybe 2 dozen.

Big Draw stuff of legends!!!!!

[The Big Dunn]

The clearest ones to me are how they almost universally have the same opinion about anything to do with Ward, GGG and Mayweather. And Wilder and Joshua.

Just seems like an us vs them mentality they are starting with, and they are using whatever story they can, even if it isn't really supported by the facts, to help build their overall narrative.

Some of the points made are really pretty ridiculous and not backed up by the data, so when you start to see the same points made, on all those different fighters, it makes you think.

Especially when there is no balance to their analysis - everything that the 'other guy' does is awful. Everything 'their guy' does is the greatest. They start with the end result in mind and try to build their story around it, facts don't seem to matter.

Give a specific example of the talking point please.

What points made are not supported by the data?

What specific analysis "starts with the end result in mind and try to build their story around it, without facts"?

[REDEEMER]

When that happens its because a fact is a fact, regardless of what forum or site you are on. 2+2=4 everywhere you go.

Hearn lied about wanting to do the Wilder/AJ fight initially. You get that from any number of social media sites. You like Hearn/AJ so you call it bollocks. Doesn't change it.

not all people think alike because they look alike. But if you post something that is a lie or leave out a fact during a discussion, whether it be here, LDBC , on ESPN or anywhere else, you should expect to get called out for it. When you are, that isn't proof everyone thinks alike.

You said you don't view the opinions in those videos and attack the OP who is clearly telling the truth while you're not as usual saying the videos must be true ,so you are thinking like the LDBC because you do watch them, stop lying like they do.....It's becoming pathetic.

[The Big Dunn]

I just did.

I think it's pretty clear that most Canelo fans agree 90% of the time, and Ward/Mayweather/Wilder fans agree on 90% of the stuff on here. I didn't say black btw.

Some Eastern Euro fans really like Loma, some really like GGG. I had Loma up 5-4 on Linares at the stoppage. Some Loma fans had him up big. A lot didn't. Stuff like that.

Seems like on the 'big issues' for those fighters there is more of a wide range of opinions there, just my observation.

Agree with what specifically? You have yet to give an example. You are throwing out general statements but avoiding giving specific examples so we can see if you're statement is true or not.

Scoring fights-you have no factual evidence to support the fight scores were based on anything other than what people saw. Besides, you clearly said "talking points".

Come on dude this shouldn't be that hard.

[DaNeutral.]

Give a specific example of the talking point please.

What points made are not supported by the data?

What specific analysis "starts with the end result in mind and try to build their story around it, without facts"?

Wouldnt my 3 points from my original post not cover this? I know you claim to not believe those people said those things until i can provide proof but I know you know they said them so if we can just get past the little game of prove it and accept thats what they said.