GGG bigger than Nelo, Nelo wants 175, how was GGG “smaller for Ward?”

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  • xxlefthookxx
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    #41
    Here is a link in 2015 where Loeffler requested Froch. [ bleacherreport.com/articles/2470652-gennady-golovkin-vs-carl-froch-fight-requested-by-gggs-promoter[/url]
    I think some fans forget about context. Canelo is 28 and still growing. G, back in 2013, was a 32 yr old who was finished growing. He was also a desperate fighter who had been ignored by Universum. The 154-168 was the schtick used to 'just get me a meaningful fight'. Once he got a modest streak at MW going, the best plan was to continue to win, extend the streak, and wait for a bigger fish to move to MW to challenge him. Martinez..no..Cotto...no... Canelo...2 years later. The Ward thing?? That timeline has been beaten to death. Ward had one offer to fight G early on...but was injured and having legal issues. After that, it made no sense to fight Ward, as G was racking up defenses on the way to the (kind of) record, and awaiting a real money bout with Canelo, who was bound to have to move up at some point.

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    • KillaMane26
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      #42
      Its not like Nelo would ever move up and fight a p4p fighter like Ward either.

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        #43
        Originally posted by KillaMane26
        Its not like Nelo would ever move up and fight a p4p fighter like Ward either.
        Was Wilder or Joshua P4P? Why did J Prince and Ward give cryptic headlines about a possible return when Ward retired or Ward saying he thought of Heayweight?

        Or let's say forget Heavyweight, would Ward have attempted Cruiser?

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        • ralex
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          #44
          Originally posted by KillaMane26
          Its not like Nelo would ever move up and fight a p4p fighter like Ward either.
          Why wouldn't he? Do you really think he's scared?

          Canelo will fight anyone, I don't see how people still question that.

          The problem with Ward is, he's been retired for awhile so that fight probably won't ever get made but who would really be shocked if Canelo moves up to 175 to face Kovalev in a few years?

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            #45
            Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
            Was Wilder or Joshua P4P? Why did J Prince and Ward give cryptic headlines about a possible return when Ward retired or Ward saying he thought of Heayweight?

            Or let's say forget Heavyweight, would Ward have attempted Cruiser?
            I thought the convo was about GGG/Canelo moving up?

            Not too many guys that will move up and fight another p4p fighter without draining them first. Manny,Floyd,Canelo the list goes on. Idk why u brought up Ward

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              #46
              Originally posted by ralex
              Why wouldn't he? Do you really think he's scared?

              Canelo will fight anyone, I don't see how people still question that.

              The problem with Ward is, he's been retired for awhile so that fight probably won't ever get made but who would really be shocked if Canelo moves up to 175 to face Kovalev in a few years?
              Do u remember Canelo-weight?
              Canelo or any star fighter not gonna move up and basically give another fighter all the advantages.

              Are u forgetting how they tried to fight GGG intially at a catch-weight. And G refused and that caused the fight to be stalled till Canelo was ready to fight at a real weightclass.

              Lol. Yall must have amnesia

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #47
                Originally posted by KillaMane26
                I thought the convo was about GGG/Canelo moving up?

                Not too many guys that will move up and fight another p4p fighter without draining them first. Manny,Floyd,Canelo the list goes on. Idk why u brought up Ward
                What's the thread title? Did Ward move up divisions?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by KillaMane26
                  Do u remember Canelo-weight?
                  Canelo or any star fighter not gonna move up and basically give another fighter all the advantages.

                  Are u forgetting how they tried to fight GGG intially at a catch-weight. And G refused and that caused the fight to be stalled till Canelo was ready to fight at a real weightclass.

                  Lol. Yall must have amnesia
                  GGG said 154-168 was easy predates anything Canelo. In fact GGG wanted Floyd at 154. Wasn't the point of 154-168 for big money fights? Who in the boxing world are big money fights at 154-160?

                  What's ''Canelo-weight?'' Did Lara have Lara-Weight? Did Angulo have Angulo-weight? Did Kirkland have Kirkland-weight?

                  LARA's 155+ fights...

                  158 - Lara vs Maslov
                  154.5 - Lara vs Gross
                  155 - Lara vs Gray
                  155 - Lara vs Boone
                  155 - Lara vs Varela
                  155.5 - Lara vs Perez
                  156.5 - Lara vs Correa
                  155 - Lara vs Perez
                  156.5 - Lara vs Hearns
                  154.5 - Lara vs Hernandez
                  155 - Lara vs Alvarez


                  KIRKLAND's 155+ fights...

                  163 - Kirkland vs Castillo
                  159 - Kirkland vs Estrada
                  155 - Kirkland vs Toribio
                  155 - Kirkland vs Lyell
                  155.7 - Kirkland vs Duran
                  154.5 - Kirkland Said Salem
                  157 - Kirkland vs Cortes
                  156 - Kirkland vs Vera
                  162.5 - Kirkland vs Gibbs
                  163.5 - Kirkland vs Berrio
                  158 - Kirkland vs Ishida
                  160 - Kirkland vs Sharpe
                  157.5 - Kirkland vs Hloros
                  155.4 - Kirkland vs Tapia
                  155 - Kirkland vs Alvarez

                  ANGULO's 155+ fights...

                  156.5 - Angulo vs Padron
                  157.5 - Angulo vs Taylor
                  158 - Angulo vs Stanislajevic
                  157 - Angulo vs Mada
                  156 - Angulo vs Gonzalez
                  155 - Angulo vs Rosado
                  154.5 - Angulo vs Silva
                  154.5 - Angulo vs Alvarez
                  162 - Angulo vs Rosa
                  162 - Angulo vs Raines
                  163 - Angulo vs Munoz
                  164.5 - Angulo vs Hernandez

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                  • KillaMane26
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
                    What's ''Canelo-weight?'' Did Lara have Lara-Weight? Did Angulo have Angulo-weight? Did Kirkland have Kirkland-weight?

                    LARA's 155+ fights...

                    158 - Lara vs Maslov
                    154.5 - Lara vs Gross
                    155 - Lara vs Gray
                    155 - Lara vs Boone
                    155 - Lara vs Varela
                    155.5 - Lara vs Perez
                    156.5 - Lara vs Correa
                    155 - Lara vs Perez
                    156.5 - Lara vs Hearns
                    154.5 - Lara vs Hernandez
                    155 - Lara vs Alvarez


                    KIRKLAND's 155+ fights...

                    163 - Kirkland vs Castillo
                    159 - Kirkland vs Estrada
                    155 - Kirkland vs Toribio
                    155 - Kirkland vs Lyell
                    155.7 - Kirkland vs Duran
                    154.5 - Kirkland Said Salem
                    157 - Kirkland vs Cortes
                    156 - Kirkland vs Vera
                    162.5 - Kirkland vs Gibbs
                    163.5 - Kirkland vs Berrio
                    158 - Kirkland vs Ishida
                    160 - Kirkland vs Sharpe
                    157.5 - Kirkland vs Hloros
                    155.4 - Kirkland vs Tapia
                    155 - Kirkland vs Alvarez

                    ANGULO's 155+ fights...

                    156.5 - Angulo vs Padron
                    157.5 - Angulo vs Taylor
                    158 - Angulo vs Stanislajevic
                    157 - Angulo vs Mada
                    156 - Angulo vs Gonzalez
                    155 - Angulo vs Rosado
                    154.5 - Angulo vs Silva
                    154.5 - Angulo vs Alvarez
                    162 - Angulo vs Rosa
                    162 - Angulo vs Raines
                    163 - Angulo vs Munoz
                    164.5 - Angulo vs Hernandez


                    Omg....like i said..No star fighter gonna move up and fight another p4p fighter without draining them. Unless they have deathwish (Mikey)

                    Yes or no?

                    The closest i can think of is Leonard vs Hagler

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                    • Rip Chudd
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
                      He won a belt at a weight Golovkin never fought at
                      That's true. Still confused on why he made that decision. He's not a big middleweight

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