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  • MDPopescu
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    #51
    Originally posted by dan_cov
    ... so that's the interview which got him the job, right?...

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    • Caxcan
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      #52
      Originally posted by AKAcronym
      Abel doesn't have plans. He wanted him to stand toe to toe and exchange body shots. That wasn't working so Golovkin decided to box and that's what gave him success.
      No, that's what lost him the fight. He's the bigger puncher and the naturally bigger man facing someone who's had stamina issues in the past (and looking to fight your fight), yet he opts to retreat and jab with no body attack. As you yourself mentioned he started doing better when he started being aggressive and played to his strengths. The problem with GGG is he remained uncertain on his identity as a fighter because of his limited experience against top opposition in tough fights.

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      • Boxing Logic
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        #53
        Originally posted by bronx7
        He hasn’t been proven to be good medium bad or great no body of work yet no fighter he developed or vet he turned around hasn’t been seen much lately. Preaches boxing jab combos IQ D and that KO comes don’t force it. Less offensive than Manny his uncle
        One of the only fighters to throw less body shots than old GGG was old Klitschko. I hope Banks knows what he's doing. He should be reading books on boxing technique as we speak, specifically body punching. If he doesn't teach, and drill, at least 5 to 10 new moves, new combinations, new tricks, to punch the body, specifically against a faster, shorter opponent, to GGG, then he's a failure as a trainer. No matter who took over as GGG's trainer, they were going to be judged on bringing back his body punching more than anything else. They need to actually add specific things. His handspeed has slowed. The normal ways of body punching are not going to work for him anymore. They need to devise specific ways for a slower, taller fighter to get in single body shots and then exit the pocket without getting countered. Even Joe Louis lost his ability to body punch after a certain age when his hands slowed.

        There just isn't enough speed at a certain point to throw the body punch in the normal flow of a fight without it getting blocked and countered by the faster opponent before your hands can get back. At this age, the only way safe route to the body is to engineer the punches from the ground up in training camp. "When Canelo does this, you can pin his left arm and get a hook in to the body here, then spin off here. When Canelo does this, you can dip down to the left and get a short hook in to the body, then bring your left hook back to guard your body in a cross guard while your back hand slips to the front of your face to block the straight counter as you watch for the left cross hook to the open side of your head, the one area left open, so you can slip under it if you have to.

        **** like that. Counters to Canelo's known tendencies. Inside tricks to safely get in a body shot before holding. Other clinch attacks Canelo hasn't seen. Jab feinting from the outside to open up a straight right to the body from the side so you can bounce out without being countered.

        Free shots. Tricks. Tactics. It has to be engineered by someone with a real brain, and a real thirst for knowledge. Papachenko I trust could have come up with some ****, like Bill Belichick trick plays in the NFL would be a good example. That's the only way you're going to get Tom Brady a receiving touchdown. That **** ain't going to come just by lining him up as a real wide receiver and having him run a WR route tree. He's too slow, you have to engineer that ****. Same with old GGG. And what reason do any of us have to believe that Johnathan Banks is that type of brilliant boxing mind?

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        • Curtis Harper
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          #54
          After 24 rds with Nelo, GGG suddenly forgot how to fight

          This shlt isn't about getting a better trainer. It was a financial move. Unabel would still be there if he weren't greedy.

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          • paulf
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            #55
            Originally posted by Commie
            Not the worst choice but a lot of question marks
            He may as well have just paid a kid in the neighborhood $20 to set the stool out for him between rounds and that’s it. Insane.

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            • j0zef
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              #56
              I don't like the move. Banks is unproven, and I don't like that they're same age. Golovkin won't take his advice as he will question banks credentials and experience. I think he needed someone he can easily respect.

              Although Golovkin never had an issue with respect, so if he really likes banks' instructions he may listen to him. I dunno.

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              • MC Hammer
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                #57
                Sanchez lost 4 fighters in the past few weeks or months, he obviously isn't doing that good of a job. ggg is a finished product by now and doesn't need much in the way of a trainer, just a good set of eyes that can see whats going on and articulate adjustments.

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                • champion4ever
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                  #58
                  What about Freddie Roach or Robert Garcia?

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                  • lopetego
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                    #59
                    so he hired Wlad's substite trainer

                    Wtf is he gonna teach to GGG? the art of jab and grab?

                    how to tire his opponents with clinching and wrestling tactics?

                    really baffling decission here

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                    • UNBIASED BOXING
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                      #60
                      Does Banks still train Whyte? I know he started after 2015? I think.

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