DAZN has exceeded 4M subscribers

[bigdunny1]

4 million global means that they are probably at a million subs alone in the US, not bad after 7 month, not bad at all.

Give it a couple more years and DAZN will be in more and more countries and slowly become the Netflix of Sports worldwide.

2 different reports that DAZN in the US alone is almost at 1M Subscribers either hitting it this week or next couple weeks. Evan Rutkowski, a former HBO executive

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=813459

hannibalboxing.com reporting as well

https://hannibalboxing.com/springtime-for-dazn/

It's not a matter of IF but when they hit 1M in the US. And globally they are a smashing success already.

DAZN is currently valued at £3billion as they are gearing up for one of the biggest stock market entries EVER for a UK tech startup. Not bad for a company that didn't even exist 3 years ago and has only been in the US for 7 months.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...3bn-float.html

Sources said that deal is likely to be a precursor to a potential London listing later this year or next which would raise new cash for growth.

Ukrainian-born Blavatnik is one of Britain’s richest men and also owns record label Warner Music, whose London headquarters in Kensington are around the corner from his £200million mansion. Access Industries also controls music streaming service Deezer.

A London listing would be one of the biggest stock market entries ever for a UK technology start-up. Blavatnik would make several times the £700million he originally paid for Perform Group in 2014.

Last year, Japanese advertising giant Dentsu bought a 10 per cent stake in the business for £300million, valuing the company at £3billion.

[EasternEuroFan]

True but it's not consistent enough to make a fan want to spend $100 a year. I'll pay $20 tomorrow for Canelo and then ride it out for the Joshua fight. There's nothing after that that makes me want to keep paying though. I'll just wait for Canelo's next fight to pay another $20. They don't have enough quality throughout the year compared to their competitors.

Well, then at least you can pick and choose your months.

Nobody can say that the next month isn't worth the $20. Just don't pay the month after if it isn't worth it.

So when you look at it like that, it's pretty good value if you choose the months to justify when it's worth paying for.

[EasternEuroFan]

So other than paying $20 for a Canelo fight what are offering better than what I'd see on FOX/ESPN/FS1/ESPN plus

The fight last week was the same fight I got from HBO for half the cost of DAZN. The Joshua fight costs double what I'd pay for had he stayed with Showtime. Same with GGG-Rolls if he'd signed with PBC. I would've gotten that on Showtime or maybe for free on Fox. Now I'm paying double to see Devin Haney.

And PPV costs don't bother me because like most people it's an event where we've all chipped in. We had about 30 people for Spence/Garcia and about 15 for Crawford/Khan. Our costs are minimal

Well of course some months are going to be better than others, that applies across the board. That's why i'd only pay for the months where i think it's justified spending the money.

And saying PPV costs don't bother you, but that's just you on a personal level. Someone else may not have people that want to have a party and chip in, then paying $70 for some PPV seems a lot in comparison to what DAZN are charging for even bigger events in some cases.

If all your friends come and chipped in for DAZN for that night/month, then they would chip in about $1 each, if you want to talk about it relatively.

I don't think DAZN has been great so far, and this month would've probably been the first month that i'd consider paying. All i've ever said about it was that i think boxing fans should be willing it to succeed because if they get to a place where they want to be and have a stable of great fighters that are usually PPV level fighters, then you're going to end up getting great value for money. Yeah you might have to pay to watch Devin Haney, but you might also end up with a PPV level event frequently to justify paying to watch the others.

[john l]

According to Forbes DAZN has already exceeded 4M subscribers

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbad...in-sports/amp/

The company won’t reveal global totals, but Forbes estimates they exceed 4 million, well ahead of the 2 million-plus Walt Disney reported last month for ESPN+.

Hope its true! ESPN don't need as many subscribers because the still use the PPV model for their bigger fights, where DAZN's ONLY income comes from subscribers.

[Motorcity Cobra]

And saying PPV costs don't bother you, but that's just you on a personal level. Someone else may not have people that want to have a party and chip in, then paying $70 for some PPV seems a lot in comparison to what DAZN are charging for even bigger events in some cases.

If all your friends come and chipped in for DAZN for that night/month, then they would chip in about $1 each, if you want to talk about it relatively.

If pricing is as big a factor as some like to claim (I don't think it's a big factor at all) then GGG's two PPV fights without Canelo should've sold more than Spence/Garcia & Wilder/Fury. His two PPV's were cheaper and more competitive yet both of those PPV's individually sold more than GGG's PPV's combined. And GGG was averaging almost a million and a half viewers on HBO at the time. Spence/Garcia/Wilder/Fury weren't averaging that many viewers. And it was their first PPV.

Canelo-GGG I & II both did better at a higher cost than Canelo's first fight with DAZN WITH A FREE TRIAL & DAZN isn't expecting this fight to do better than either one.

If cost is such a factor then DAZN should be projecting this $20 fight to bring in double the subs than the 1 million who bought Canelo/GGG or Canelo/Chavez Jr that cost $80

The cost concerns of PPV are overblown when you look at the buying habits of viewers.

[bigdunny1]

Math 101

say you're a Canelo fan & buy his fights

2 fights a year at 75 to 100 each: 175

he moves to DAZN

FOR THE YEAR you can get DAZN for 100 bucks. Period

and it also gives you

SSR-Gallo II
Joshua-Ruiz
etc etc etc

but go ahead and keep opining for years gone by

— Ernie Gabion (@eaner0919) May 3, 2019

[Motorcity Cobra]

According to Mark Taffet, former HBO PPV employee, PPV is watched by 5-6 people per house. So that $80 PPV is closer to $15 per person. People are going to treat this Canelo fight the same so that's around $3 per person. But the problem for DAZN is you don't want people to treat this like a PPV fight because those other 4-5 peo people don't have to get a subscription to watch it.

Even if one million people watch this fight Crawford/Khan still would have generated more revenue than this fight. And according to that article the fighters purses alone are near $40 million.

This isn't sustainable. The PPV model is more sustainable than this.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Math 101

say you're a Canelo fan & buy his fights

2 fights a year at 75 to 100 each: 175

he moves to DAZN

FOR THE YEAR you can get DAZN for 100 bucks. Period

and it also gives you

SSR-Gallo II
Joshua-Ruiz
etc etc etc

but go ahead and keep opining for years gone by

— Ernie Gabion (@eaner0919) May 3, 2019

That's the same guy who said Haymon paying fighters to much money was going to kill the sport.

"well I got paid ___ by PBC so I want at least that" I heard it happen all too often. Haymon inflated this market beyond repair IMO

— Ernie Gabion (@eaner0919) July 13, 2016

yeah sadly this is going to be an uphill battle. Hard not to blame Haymon and the time buying he did

— Ernie Gabion (@eaner0919) June 6, 2016

all now expect to get paid and since Al pays them they have no urgency to make fights outside of the Haymon/PBC world. This is just as bad

— Ernie Gabion (@eaner0919) July 13, 2016

Here he is insinuating Haymon is commiting a crime with the time buys. Comparing it to the crimes committed by Arthur Andersen

@footypjman the vast majority of them have no clue about what's going on with PBC/Haymon. Arthur Andersen employees had no clue either.

— Ernie Gabion (@eaner0919) April 21, 2016

And this didn't age well.

I don't buy JCC Jr and Canelo are negotiating anything or do we forget Canelo is GB JCC Jr is Haymon & they're 2 weight classes apart?

— Ernie Gabion (@eaner0919) December 13, 2016

No wonder you're so I'll informed & didn't see the fall of HBO coming when I told you it would. And PBC getting a network deal when I told you it would. You're listening to people who have no idea wtf they're talking about

[bigdunny1]

You projecting and deflecting him saying that DAZN just saved all boxing fans 75 bucks in 2 Canelo fans is not opinion but fact. But keep crying that we should be spending 50 bucks a month for FS1 then 10 bucks a month for Showtime on top of that and then still almost 100 bucks a month for PPV lol
To watch PBC you spending almost 700 a year with cable bundle for FS1, Showtime and that's not including the 80 buck a pop PPV. They have already had 2 this year. So added 180 to the 700. Meanwhile DAZN cost me 99 bucks that's it. And canelo jacobs alone is better then both PPVs by PBC. Manny/Broner and Spence/Garcia lol

[QballLobo]

That’s crazy.
WWE Changed to the app vs PPV model in early 2014 and they have been just over 1 million subs for a while with very little growth.
DAZN is growing. If they keep signing top fighters and expand to other major sports (NFL, NBA, etc) they will continue to be a big factor.