Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: I'm Lineal Champ - My Status Goes Back a 100 Years

[MDPopescu]

... actually, in case Lennox Lewis comes back today he may claim that he's the "lineal champ", right?

One cannot be lineal champion once a title is either forfeited by loss or retirement it gets passed down to whoever holds that belt or when a belt becomes vacant .

One can make the case that Wlad actually became the lineal champion once Fury left he was no longer lineal because you NEED a belt to claim that so the whole argument is ******ed bc it's actually Joshua since he has Furys belts and we know Wilder is a waste and lost his last fight.

... that was precisely what I meant...

[juggernaut666]

... that was precisely what I meant...

It's amazing how dumb posters are on here, for real.

One can't be a lineal anything without a belt so the entire argument is beyond foolish with this Fury claim.

[MDPopescu]

It's amazing how dumb posters are on here, for real.

One can't be a lineal anything without a belt so the entire argument is beyond foolish with this Fury claim.

... that's how it is...

... but, now, do you remember how "team Wilder" also claimed that Fury was the "lineal"?...

[Toffee]

It's amazing how dumb posters are on here, for real.

One can't be a lineal anything without a belt so the entire argument is beyond foolish with this Fury claim.

Ah, someone else is the only one who knows the rules!

It's amazing how many individuals we have with the perfect answer. All of them completely different!

When are you going to get it? It's nonsense. It's a historical exercise, not the present.

[bigjavi973]

if he technically retired... which he did....

technically he gave up that right....


only fight right now that should be for the lineal if its the winner of AJ vs Wilder imo

[bigjavi973]

"you need a BELT to claim lineal"


so what happens if wlad was the lineal going into the fury fight... and he gave up his belts lets say cuz he didnt wanna pay sanctioning fees.....

would he be stripped of being the lineal champ too since he doesnt have belts no more?

[Brit_1]

Kelloggs Lineal Breakfast Cereal Champion.

[MulaKO]

It’s the only thing Fury can claim at the moment

[davefromvancouv]

Everyone thinks they have the definitive answer. Everyone disagrees over at least some portion of the lineage. How arrogant would someone need to be to claim that they and they alone have the answer?

I think even Ali would have disagreed with your version. He retired so that Frazier could fight Ellis for the lineal title.

History brings the line back together. But it's very rarely certain at any point.

Which is why Fury claiming it is nonsense.

Tyson Fury is the only one who did it. Tyson Fury is the only one who stepped in the ring and beat Klitschko when Klitschko was the lineal champion. Muhammad Ali is the only one who stepped in the ring and beat Sonny Liston when Liston was the lineal champion. WHEN ALI CAME BACK, Joe Frazier is the only one who stepped in the ring and beat Ali. You have beat the man to become the man. Especially, if the man COMES BACK. This has been going on since 1908, when Jim Jefferies came back and fought Jack Johnson after HIS temporary retirement.

But don't take my word for it:

Jefferies:
"Because Jeffries had retired undefeated and had not actually ‘lost’ his heavyweight title, many felt he remained the true champion. "

https://www.thefightcity.com/july-4-1910-johnson-vs-jeffries-jack-johnson-james-jeffries-corbett-sullivan-tommy-burns-fight-of-the-century/

Ali:
"He made nine defenses between 1965 and '67 before he was stripped of his titles after being found guilty on draft evasion charges. He'd eventually lose the lineal title in the ring to Joe Frazier in 1971."

https://www.si.com/boxing/photos/2012/11/12lineal-heavyweight-champions#20

"In many minds Ali remained the genuine heavyweight champion of the world because he never lost his title to another fighter inside the ring." (ringtv link)
https://www.******.com/181567-ali-quarry-remembered/

Fury:
"Tyson Fury (27-0, 19 KO) doesn’t have a major sanctioning body title. For them, he doesn’t need one. He’s the man who beat the man."

https://www.boxingscene.com/lineage-matters-most-heavyweight--134150

[juggernaut666]

"you need a BELT to claim lineal"


so what happens if wlad was the lineal going into the fury fight... and he gave up his belts lets say cuz he didnt wanna pay sanctioning fees.....

would he be stripped of being the lineal champ too since he doesnt have belts no more?

Yes he would ,because he then forfeits the titles..you CLOWN.

You yourself just explained it in the previous post so now your going against it ?

How ****** are you?