Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: I'm Lineal Champ - My Status Goes Back a 100 Years

[Bobby Shaw]

Heavyweight Tyson Fury (27-0-1, 19 KOs) has taken plenty of verbal jabs over his next opponent. Fury will take on massive underdog Tom Schwarz, on June 15 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. But there hasn't been a good reception for the fight, after Fury had a deal on the table to face WBC champion Deontay Wilder in a rematch - and walked away from the bout to ink an exclusive co-promotional deal with Top Rank and ESPN.
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I think Fury is back on drugs. Is he on VADS for the whole year?

[Bronx2245]

I hope he does. I'm a Fury fan but this is a disappointing choice of opponent. I'm always fine with guys taking an easy fight here and there, I'm just more critical of this one I guess since we thought the Wilder rematch was happening right away and then at the 11th hour he went another direction. Really I don't have a whole lot of hope of ever seeing the big 3 fight unfortunately

I think we get Wilder vs. Fury II on ESPN PPV in 2020, just like Arum planned on from the start! That is unless Wilder vs. Ortiz II goes real bad for Wilder!

[ceylon mooney]

Fury with his lineal BS talk, Wilder fought him cos he thought Fury was done...agreed he beat Wilder silly and that makes him number2 really...number 1 remains the boogeyman, the rent collector...Yo Fury, the landlord would come collect his rent, best you ain’t sniffing shlt or partying up...you big dosser...between, wasn’t he and his pimpled cousin caught cheating??? And for his information belts matter else Wilder would be considered non important.

no way wilder thought fury was done. im sure that wilders people know at least as much as ur average boxing fan. plain as day fury was/is a MUCH more difficult fight for wilder than joshua. im sure that if i and every other fan who knows boxing well enough knew that then wilder and his people did, too.

this is a lame fight and shouldnt be sanctioned. what bull****. furt shoulda rematched wilder. he already beat him once. what bull****.

[Mick Higgs]

This subject is great news for me & right up my street. I'm a bit bored today so this gives me something to carp on about & either educate some or bore the hell of others. If we start with the gloved era then of course we start with John L.Sullivan followed by James J.Corbett, Bob Fitzsimmons & Jame J.Jeffries & this where the complication starts. For some unknown reason jeffries retires & takes it upon himself to nominate Tommy Burns & Marvin Hart to fight for the vacant title. Burns wins & defends Worldwide until he comes a cropper against Jack Johnson in Australia (real World champions travel & defended abroad back in the day) As we all know Johnson defended against Jeffries (lineage restored) & went on to lose to Jess Willard & was then out gun by Jack Dempsey, who in turn lost to Gene Tunney. Tunney then retires busts the whole lineage bridge apart. Tyson Fury's claim now becomes unclear. Max Schmeling beats Jack Sharkey for the vacant title but is beaten in the return. Schmelling, Primo Carnera, Max Bear & James J.Braddock jockey for position until Joe Louis comes along. (remember lineage was lost when Tunney retired so we start yet again) Louis reigns as #1 for many years until retirement. Jersey Joe Walcott & Ezzard Charles swop the title until Rocky Marciano comes along. (Marciano had already bested former champ Joe Louis, so second lineage restored. Rocky then retires undefeated & Floyd Patterson picks up the laurel. Then we get Johanneson, Listern & Clay before more political B/S creeps in. Enter the 70's & the WBA & WBC are bickering like a pair of old maids, until Larry Holmes sorts a few things out (Stick with it people even I'm getting tired now). Anyway enter the IBF & more confusion occurs. To cut a very long story short Mike Tyson then turns up & unifie's all 3 belts, but it doesn't end there as along comes yet another upstart, namely the WBO to confuse matter more.
Lennox Lewis was in my mind the last undisputed H/W champion of the World, but it's open to debate as to whether there's a genuine lineage champ or not. Personally I'm bored with the hyperthetical subject & intend to pour a large glass of Glenfarclas single malt!!...

[Bonduu]

no way wilder thought fury was done. im sure that wilders people know at least as much as ur average boxing fan. plain as day fury was/is a MUCH more difficult fight for wilder than joshua. im sure that if i and every other fan who knows boxing well enough knew that then wilder and his people did, too.

this is a lame fight and shouldnt be sanctioned. what bull****. furt shoulda rematched wilder. he already beat him once. what bull****.

You must be a casual or don’t know chit about boxing politics let me help you here....go watch Fury-Seferi or Fury-Pianeta then come back and tell me Fury was 100% fit...A Fury a year before that fight weighted like an elephant...was so rusty and didn’t step in ring for almost 3years... did so much damage to his body...now compare that to Beyoncé.

[Baba K]

Ha ha ha! Great point, I guess Lennox Lewis is the real lineal champ! 🙄 Straight up tho, Fury is right about fighting whoever he wants...but two things are likely - 1) Skills could diminish and 2) Fans will lose interest - that hurts future earning power. But fight whoever you want, partner...but could find yourself out of the conversation if you keep this up.

[TexasCowBoy]

The actual lineal heavyweight title lineage has been broken several times. And most of the recent “lineal champs” have basically become recognized as the lineal champ because they were seen as the clear cut top guy in the division. And not because they beat the man that beat the man.

LL started being recognized as “lineal champ” after he beat Holyfield and unified all the belts. The WBO belt wasn’t really required back then to reach undisputed status. But the previous lineal title lineage had been broken when George Foreman retired as lineal champ.

Very similar to the way LL retired as lineal champ and halted that title lineage. Personally, I felt that Vitali had a better claim to starting a new title lineage than Wladimir while he was active. But once Vitali retired, Wladimir clearly established himself as the top guy in the division. And in the minds of most started a new title lineage of his own.

And as we know, Fury was the man that beat the man. So of every heavyweight out there, he probably has the best claim to being “lineal champ.” But obviously his inactivity very much weakened that claim.

Boxing (Facts) History at its finest .....

[PapaBricks]

I don't care about belts..

I'm the lineal champ...

Somebody needs to explain to Fury just what Lineal champion means apparently.
You can't say you don't care about belts but then in the same breath claim your the Champ of the world because you beat a guy that had all the belts.

[hugh grant]

All that matters is Tyson outboxed wilder for 11 rounds and 40 seconds

[Boksfan]

Fat Fury is the biggest fraud in boxing. Lying about some fairy tale lineal belt and fighting cab driver Schwarz.