Comments Thread For: Jacobs: Other Than Mayweather, I'm Canelo's Only 'Prime' Foe

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  • Boxing Logic
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    #11
    Agreed! He did forget Lara though, but Lara was not an ATG either. Who did Lara beat? Lara was very good at a few things but lacked power, variety, punch output, body work, punch resistance, etc etc. There's a reason he struggled with guys like Carlos Molina who he should not have struggled against.

    And Canelo did poorly in that fight anyway.

    That's what Canelo does. He does pretty well, not great, vs prime A- or B+ opponents, like Lara, or former A- now B+ smaller guys like Cotto, or he does pretty well vs guys who used to be A-level like GGG but now declined and are no longer better than A-.

    That's what Canelo is. An A- type of guy. Like Lara, he does certain things spectacularly, but not enough of them, and his punch output is limited too.

    The problem with Jacobs is, at his peak he was an A- guy too, and now he's probably not in his prime either. He says he's the only one but he's 32. That's when most guys start declining even ones who have been healthy their entire careers, and who don't overly drain themselves to stay at one weight class their entire careers, and dont have to do rehydration clauses.

    So I'd question whether Jacobs is any more in his prime at this point than GGG was when GGG fought Canelo and Jacobs. But other than that, and forgetting about Lara, I agree with his overall point.

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    • kushking
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      #12
      How ironic can it get that Canelo having by far the best resume in boxing by age 28,is still nitpicked & critiqued as if him fighting ANY other fighters at the time would've made it to where he wouldn't have been hated on.(yes its hating on ginger)

      Some of you need to be honest with yourselves & admit what I've seen all along,Canelo will go down as the best of this generation at the end of the day.

      He is the definition of a prodigy ffs(of course not unbeatable with that resume nobody can be),hes been taking on the best fighters/& or the biggest most lucrative $$$ fights available since the age of 20 & yet people like to act as if hed have somehow be more accomplished had he fought anyone else than who he did when he did.

      Any other fighter gets called an atg for beating top rank soupcans 4 example,& are defended with millions of excuses by the media,yet the 1 fighter who has actually fought almost everyone,gets shtted on by many & most media from day 1,where as most other fighters have just talked about it & given excuses why they didn't fight anybody;& they are lauded eternally as supposed legends
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      • cjzmonzey
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        #13
        Jacobs is wrong

        It is totally a joke that Jacobs would say this. When Canelo fought GGG the first time GGG was 35 years old. 1 year younger than Mayweather was when Canelo fought Mayweather. When Canelo and GGG 2 happened, GGG was 36. How is GGG at 35 not prime, but Mayweather at 36 IS prime? This guy is crazy. GGG beat the brakes off this bum already anyways. GGG won both fights against Canelo prime or no prime. Get it right Jacobs.
        Last edited by cjzmonzey; 05-01-2019, 09:12 PM.

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        • DeeMoney
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          #14
          Originally posted by dan_cov
          He said since Floyd though I disagree with that even. How was Erislandy Lara not prime?
          GGG also I certainly don't buy he conveniently was no longer prime the moment he stepped up and fought someone that had a pulse.
          I agree that GGG didn't suddenly fall out of prime before the Jacobs fight. To be fair though I think his prime was Ouma through Lemieux (a year and a half before Jacobs); whatever you may think of his opposition then.

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          • cjzmonzey
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            #15
            You must be kidding me, right? He got whooped bad by Floyd and he lost two fights to GGG. How is he the best of a generation? Not even close. Not to mention he failed a drug test for PED's, you've got to absolutely be kidding me? The best cheater in a generation? He might have that title, but definitely not the best Boxer of this generation. You've got to be on some good stuff man.
            Last edited by cjzmonzey; 05-01-2019, 09:16 PM.

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            • methodcal
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              #16
              Originally posted by texasboi15
              jacobs has been one the guys begging and pleading for the canelo fight

              ok you got it.

              I don't wanna hear no excuses after the fight.
              facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              • methodcal
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                #17
                [QUOTE=Drew Bundini Br;19707891]FLOYD was old enough to be CANELO's father. Lol. He boxed the breaks off of CANELO winning at least 11 rounds and they still tried to rob him. JACOBS better not leave it up to the judges![/Q

                And DJ supposed to do what no other fighter has done.... If judges are needed it'll be right... Canelo being respectful and DJ talking like Canelo a prospect!

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                • methodcal
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by kushking
                  How ironic can it get that Canelo having by far the best resume in boxing by age 28,is still nitpicked & critiqued as if him fighting ANY other fighters at the time would've made it to where he wouldn't have been hated on.(yes its hating on ginger)

                  Some of you need to be honest with yourselves & admit what I've seen all along,Canelo will go down as the best of this generation at the end of the day.

                  He is the definition of a prodigy ffs(of course not unbeatable with that resume nobody can be),hes been taking on the best fighters/& or the biggest most lucrative $$$ fights available since the age of 20 & yet people like to act as if hed have somehow be more accomplished had he fought anyone else than who he did when he did.

                  Any other fighter gets called an atg for beating top rank soupcans 4 example,& are defended with millions of excuses by the media,yet the 1 fighter who has actually fought almost everyone,gets shtted on by many & most media from day 1,where as most other fighters have just talked about it & given excuses why they didn't fight anybody;& they are lauded eternally as supposed legends
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                  I like Canelo toooo lol! 👍😉

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                  • SweetPbfAli
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                    #19
                    I don't think that was prime Floyd but I do think that was his last great performance. He was super sharp that night and Canelo trying to box with him just made him look even better.

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                    • HarvardBlue
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                      #20
                      That statement is irrelevant.

                      The only one that was able to outbox Canelo and get a decision was Mayweather.

                      Canelo has been outboxed before and after Mayweather but not by much and no one with the clout to get a decision.

                      Jacobs can outbox Canelo but not by much so we already know the outcome.

                      If you're a Canelo fan you'll enjoy this fight because you're guaranteed to see him win.

                      If you're a boxing fan you hold your nose and watch it and hope the results isn't too egregious.

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