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    #201
    Originally posted by Bonduu
    And you must be a dumbass if you think PBC is cheating the commission openly while they seat on their ass or looking the other way...
    It's not just PBC. It's everybody.

    If a commission doesn't look the other way, promoters move to a state that will.

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    • kafkod
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      #202
      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      Wilder and Fury ended up splitting something like $25m, with the fight delivering such that there was heavy anticipation for the rematch, with still good interest for the replacement.

      There's nothing magical about it.
      So how many non magic PPVs did Wilder and Ortiz sell last time they fought?

      How many will Wilder's next fight sell?

      Wilder isn't a PPV fighter, never has been, never will be. Fury vs Wilder was a PPV fight because of Fury, not Dumbontay.

      Wilder lost to Fury and he and Ortiz both turned tail and ran away from AJ. Nobody is going to pay $75 to watch those two losers fight each other again.

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      • rickJen
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        #203
        Ortiz will fight another bum in the interim, mark my word.
        I'm sure Shirley Finkle promised him the Wilder rematch.

        This guy even says Haymon is the reason why team Ortiz rejected the AJ fight.

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        • Sid-Knee
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          #204
          Originally posted by john l
          He got caught lying about offer he sent to Wilder(12mil flat fee)He also got caught lying that Ortiz's people did not want fight because they did not have enough time because they have came out and said it was a lowball offer now whether that's true, don't know because have not seen contract and neither have you.And im not gonna sit hear and go thru the all lies him and ALL promoters constantly make and if your so new to sport to figure that out, well you need to do your homework.good bye and quit bothering me if you want to be a fanboy of "fast Eddie" then go right ahead.
          How did Eddie lie when he sent the 12.5 Mill offer?

          For it to be a lie, you would need to prove Ortiz's people never told Hearn they wouldn't be ready in time when he first got in touch. Care to give me this evidence? Or are you just lying and smearing like the rest of the Americans on this site?

          Why would Eddie send a contract to Ortiz when they refused the offer? Are you really this dense? You make an offer, it gets accepted, you go through the conditions if there are any, then you send a contract to be signed with everything that has been agreed.

          I don't need to do homework according to you because you know he's a liar. Yet you've given me sweet f3ck all.

          When you lie about someone, at least have some kind of material to back it up with. Otherwise, it becomes ironic.

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            #205
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            Wilder and Fury ended up splitting something like $25m, with the fight delivering such that there was heavy anticipation for the rematch, with still good interest for the replacement.

            There's nothing magical about it.
            Actually, they earned 7 Mill each. Fury confirmed it.

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            • JSN006
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              #206
              Eddie gave miller more than whyte and didnt make bs clauses like if miller wins aj still gets lions share in the rematch, like they did for whyte. In short, they make it easier for the guy they rly want to fight to accept the offers. Who knows what bs clauses and terms were in ortizs offer. They made it easy for fatass andy tho it seems.

              That snake eddie makes fun of schwartz and then gives aj ruiz lol. The nerve he has

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                #207
                Originally posted by Ajvar
                There is no percentage calculation unless it's a PPV or purse bid in this business (Deontay recently figured that out turning down 100 mil asking 'how much AJ get, doe?').
                It's boxing 'fans' who use percentage for whatever reason so it should be calculated between fighters same way as the only way in this business: out of the whole pot. It's managers, trainers and other birds who get a percentage of a fighter's purse.
                Wrong. Since DAZN is a subscription-based streaming service, there is no way to know which subscriptions account for which fights. So the percentages have to be based on what your opponent is getting. Wilder was fully justified in wanting to know how much Joshua would be getting if he fought him. DAZN refused to divulge this information so Wilder reneged on the offer. They were essentially trying to get Wilder to agree to another flat fee when he has consistently demanded that after all the crap he endured last year with Hearn, any fight with Joshua would have to be 50/50.

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  So how many non magic PPVs did Wilder and Ortiz sell last time they fought?

                  How many will Wilder's next fight sell?

                  Wilder isn't a PPV fighter, never has been, never will be. Fury vs Wilder was a PPV fight because of Fury, not Dumbontay.

                  Wilder lost to Fury and he and Ortiz both turned tail and ran away from AJ. Nobody is going to pay $75 to watch those two losers fight each other again.
                  ^^^Lol, look at this fool

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                  • kafkod
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                    Actually, they earned 7 Mill each. Fury confirmed it.
                    Fury is a liar doe, just like Eddie Hearn. And I can post videos of Tyson and Eddie calling each other liars to prove it.

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      Actually, they earned 7 Mill each. Fury confirmed it.
                      That's not what I've read; when one of his home papers went on about Tyson Fury donating his full purse on the fight, the number that was used and attributed to Fury was £7m (don't have the exchange rate in hand for the time window, but that gets you to about $10m).

                      Beyond that, if Fury actually got 50/50 on the first fight, 1)why wasn't the listed money split 50/50 and 2)why was it such a deal when the offer for the rematch was explicitly stated as being 50/50?

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