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  • #11
    Originally posted by alexjust View Post
    You are comparing apples to oranges. If VADA is not empowered to determine punishments, but is only a testing organization, how can you compare this with an organization, which does the testing and may determine (if they can) punishment?
    basically this.

    The commissions get the advice and professional consulting from advanced drug testing agencies... otherwise it would be old school to just piss in a cup for a post fight urine test.

    Tbh, I nobody can fault Matchroom Sports USA because IMHO this was all done by design. I'm thinking data analytics had something to do with it. Maybe Miller wasn't selling and DAZN wanted better metrics leading up to the fight.

    Remember that Canelo Alvarez, for the first time ever at MSG pulled a crowd and Mexican Americans.

    Is it a coincidence that it's Andy Ruiz Jr.? Keep in mind that there are always fall back backups when things like this happen. Ortiz and Ruiz Jr. were good backup options.

    To Haymon's credit, Wilder vs Ortiz 2 PPV IMHO will make noise and I expect it to hit 500K PPV+. Of course Showtime has its guarantee purses anyways so Team Ortiz just playing the fool at any angle. Team Ortiz just made more publicity stunts to say it was the promoter when within their organization (that's all by design). You gotta love politics. The shows will go on, and everybody still makes money.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
      USADA caught Dillashaw for EPO and banned him 2 years.


      VADA caught Miller with EPO, HGH, and an anobolic steroid, but since VADA has no jurisdiction, Miller only gets banned for 6 months by a sanctioning body.


      25% the ban for 3x worse cheating.


      Tell me more about how VADA > USADA.
      The main difference is the USADA has been granted certain abilities to suspend UFC athletes. No testing group, VADA or the USADA has been given that power by boxing commissions, promoters or anyone with power in boxing.

      Its often been a thing that commissions suspend UFC guys for less time than the USADA does. For Dillashaw specifically he was suspended 2 years by the USADA but only 1 year by the NYSAC.

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      • #13
        Given that he got a VERY light tap on the wrist after a possession with intent to supply I’m surprised Joshua has the cheek to mention anything about lenient treatment.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
          USADA caught Dillashaw for EPO and banned him 2 years.


          VADA caught Miller with EPO, HGH, and an anobolic steroid, but since VADA has no jurisdiction, Miller only gets banned for 6 months by a sanctioning body.


          25% the ban for 3x worse cheating.


          Tell me more about how VADA > USADA.
          Originally posted by alexjust View Post
          You are comparing apples to oranges. If VADA is not empowered to determine punishments, but is only a testing organization, how can you compare this with an organization, which does the testing and may determine (if they can) punishment?

          ... he has a point, nevertheless... there isn't a "national boxing board", in the U.S., entitled to rule bans...

          WBA and WBC are headquartered abroad (Panama, Mexico)... but IBF has the HQ in New Jersey...

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
            USADA caught Dillashaw for EPO and banned him 2 years.


            VADA caught Miller with EPO, HGH, and an anobolic steroid, but since VADA has no jurisdiction, Miller only gets banned for 6 months by a sanctioning body.


            25% the ban for 3x worse cheating.


            Tell me more about how VADA > USADA.
            Jon “picogram” Jones

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            • #16
              Originally posted by alexjust View Post
              You are comparing apples to oranges. If VADA is not empowered to determine punishments, but is only a testing organization, how can you compare this with an organization, which does the testing and may determine (if they can) punishment?
              Exactly... what an idiotic ass comment. He tries to use one of the few cases where USADA did the right thing in the UFC, when they just had the whole Jon Jones ****-show going on.

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              • #17
                Same thing canelo got for his tainted Mexican beef

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                • #18
                  suspended from WBA rankings.. not from boxing

                  cant make this sht up

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                    He's not even suspended from fighting as I understand it. He's just banned from that ABC Groups rankings for 6mos cuz ABC Groups can't dictate if you can fight or not. Thats the really crazy thing. He isn't reallllllly suspended at all.

                    I don’t think NYSAC has come to a decision yet, so let’s not jump the gun here saying his punishment was too light. I’m sure NYSAC will van him for a long time. They should take notes from Whyte’s 2 year suspension from overseas, and understand Miller’s PED situation is much worse. Ban him for 5 years at the bare minimum. Should be banned for life IMO.

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                    • #20
                      Juiceshua is a hypocrite

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