Comments Thread For: Hearn: Andy Ruiz Will Try To Beat Joshua, I Want To See a War

[Bronx2245]

You have attempted at the very least to justify your words so I salute you. However where we differ is that, yes a fighter should always demand more than his worth although, he should always have a bottom figurebeing the absolute minimum he should accept. Not to mention a fighter, manager and promoter should be working on the same page. Not for the manager to be begging for the fight and saying Ortiz is already in training ,contradicting totally what the promoter originally said about the lowball offer.

Yes Ortiz is the ideal fight for fans but who will have the biggest regret if the fight is not made? .... I can promise you it’s not Hearn or Joshua. Personally Hearn should make the fight. It’s actually a more intriguing contest than AJ vs Miller

We haven't discussed this in a little bit. What's your impressions of Efe now?

[sicko]

So is Ruiz official? I'm totally OK with it if he is! Great opportunity for him, anything can happen when you pick a last minute opponent. It is more risky for AJ the Champion than it is for the Challenger.

[Boksfan]

If Breazeale knocks him out, everybody loses money! Wilder, Fury, and Joshua, are all in a high risk game! In the HW division, it just takes one punch! POOF GONE!

I don't know, I'm pretty sure AJ vs Fury can make a good money in America without Wilder. Fury become a big draw in US market after that draw, probably bigger than Wilder because Fury is a good talker.

[Mammoth]

So is Ruiz official? I'm totally OK with it if he is! Great opportunity for him, anything can happen when you pick a last minute opponent. It is more risky for AJ the Champion than it is for the Challenger.

Nothing official yet, unfortunately.

[Adamsc151]

Ruiz may not have the sheer size and durability of Miller, but he's a far better boxer and has very quick hands for a HW. If his fight with Parker was anywhere but New Zealand, he might have already been a world champ anyway. Not saying he was robbed, but it was a close fight and those decisions generally go to the man on home turf.

[Redgloveman]

Gladly. One, Ortiz was challenging for WBC for the first time so he played his position. Two, this situation is much different. Ortiz is easily the 4th best HW behind the big three and Hearn is the one in need of a big name to really make things interesting. Three, Not only that, there is only 4 weeks to prepare for while AJ has been training already. Four, A fighter should NEVER low ball himself. He started high (10 million), but i bet they will met somewhere in the middle. Hearn has the money the way Skipper has been throwing it around. Five, Hearn was is either going to select Ruiz or Hunter. Ortiz was never a consideration imo because he is more skilled than Hunter and Ruiz.

But Hearn knows he can't pick a lamb for the slaughter or this fight will not be taken seriously. The last offer i heard from Hearn was 7 million.

The problem is, all of that thinking gets exposed for the foolishness that it is when you consider something very simple.

Ortiz could be fighting for 3 HW world titles on June 1st and a for figure which is AT LEAST ten times his highest payday if he had just accepted the offer.

Instead he gets nothing because he and his team got unreasonably greedy. Then they lied about the offer to save face even tho their figure was still 10x Ortiz’ highest ever.

As for your point about Hearn never wanting Ortiz, the first name out of Joshua and Hearn’s mouth for the fight was Ortiz. We all saw it. Ortiz was the front runner. If AJ/Hearn were going to duck, as you suggest, then Ortiz and his team could not have made it any easier for them. Team Ortiz should have gained massively from this opportunity. Either

(a) by getting the fight; or

(b) by entering into negotiations with good faith and reasonable expectations and then having AJ and Hearn duck out, the PR victory would have been significant and boosted Ortiz profile tremendously, “the Boogieman” moniker would have seemed well deserved.

Instead they’ve actually somehow managed to lose. Their reputation has been dented (what kind of “Boogieman” ducks?) and apparently their team is now divided. Now it seems most likely they’re gonna have to watch someone else take the fight and wonder “what if” as Ortiz continues to get older and older.

[P4Pdunny]

when are we getting an announcement then