Comments Thread For: Hearn: Joshua Would DESTROY Luis Ortiz in Three - No Problem!

[lfc19titles]

Hearn is going to "tell you next week what Louis Ortiz was offered"?? Why not give em' what Miller was offered and call it a day? If Ortiz is somehow now occupied on some PED cycling fiasco, well too bad for Mr. Ortiz, he just cycled himself into lower paydays and lower respect....but I'm sure Hearn has heard of Ortizs disapproval of his managements handling of the deal (we have).

So why not keep negotiations going - instead of some anticlimactic "wait till next week" dud to entertain the Zombie Poshualites? Aside from the top three, NO ONE has the Ortiz level fear factor. Everything at the moment has bum relief written all over it. Hearn will gladly go for the relief to showboat & showcase his pampered commercial zimbot

It’s always hearns fault with you lot isn’t it ?

Ortiz still has time to accept, according to reports deadline is today

Once the ship has fully sailed then Hearn will post the facts with evidence

We all already know team Ortiz lied about it being 5m as part of team have contradicted statements already and are pissed as it’s life changing money for Ortiz and his family

Hearn said it’s morw than 5m too

Ortiz ain’t feared, he fears Joshua and this is the clearest duck you can have

The chance to fight for three world titles and 7m. He runs like a coward

Shame on Ortiz and shame on anyone who supports this fraud

[Deus]

I think the real truth will turn out to be once again Joshua's handlers offering peanuts just to get Ortiz's name out there knowing full well it won't happen and then ,settling" for some bum to get their media darling another fight. Trouble is American fans aren't British fans and can see right thru this. Same story again , different fighter.

Can see right through this? Apparently you can also see right through Ortiz' own team acknowledging that they are to blame for the fight not happening in freaking public:

• Ortiz manager initially told Hearn that Ortiz would not be ready... Ortiz trainer called this out as a lie.
  
• Ortiz promoter called every offer lowball and walked away from negotiations... without informing his client.
  
• Ortiz manager also called out Hearn on lowball offer and then subsequently backtracked when Hearn said he would release the figures. Jimenez then proceeded to blame Ortiz' promoters for hiding the real value of the fight from himself as they were taking a huge cut from the fight and not telling Jimenez.
• Jimenez himself said that they ****ed up and blew the deal.

Somehow all of that that is public record as undisputed facts isn't enough for you to actually blame Ortiz' team for the fight not happening. Doesn't suit your agenda clearly.

[lolasif]

Hearn is going to "tell you next week what Louis Ortiz was offered"?? Why not give em' what Miller was offered and call it a day? If Ortiz is somehow now occupied on some PED cycling fiasco, well too bad for Mr. Ortiz, he just cycled himself into lower paydays and lower respect....but I'm sure Hearn has heard of Ortizs disapproval of his managements handling of the deal (we have).

So why not keep negotiations going - instead of some anticlimactic "wait till next week" dud to entertain the Zombie Poshualites? Aside from the top three, NO ONE has the Ortiz level fear factor. Everything at the moment has bum relief written all over it. Hearn will gladly go for the relief to showboat & showcase his pampered commercial zimbot

After Ortiz and his team have proven to be so untrustworthy, why would Hearn trust them to make a deal in good faith now. Especially if he were to the one to go back to them. If Ortiz and his team truly wanted to make the fight, they would be the ones to make contact, because they are the ones who ended the negotiations.

The likelihood is that if Hearn hadn't threatened to expose Ortiz's team, they would have kept up the lowball pretense in the knowledge that AJ/Hearn haters would keep on running with it. Even now, when Ortiz's manager and trainer have pinned the blame on Ortiz's promoter people like you are still trying find a way to spin the story so Hearn is the problem.

[JWHardin]

The offers were called lowball, they weren’t interested remember.

Nobody is sending a contract to a rejected verbal offer ffs.

Only after Hearn said he could expose them did they get all interested.

Fans like you and Hearn are now using the same excuse for not getting a contract when Wilder offered $50 million. Wait, no, Joshua did agree verbally, then they wanted to see the actual money, then they came up with the phony 24 hr deadline they had to sign to fight the mandatory Povetkin.

Holy Fuk some of you on here are thick in the head if you can't see through Hearn and Joshua's BS.

[lion33lit]

After Ortiz and his team have proven to be so untrustworthy, why would Hearn trust them to make a deal in good faith now. Especially if he were to the one to go back to them. If Ortiz and his team truly wanted to make the fight, they would be the ones to make contact, because they are the ones who ended the negotiations.

The likelihood is that if Hearn hadn't threatened to expose Ortiz's team, they would have kept up the lowball pretense in the knowledge that AJ/Hearn haters would keep on running with it. Even now, when Ortiz's manager and trainer have pinned the blame on Ortiz's promoter people like you are still trying find a way to spin the story so Hearn is the problem.

Whats sooo "untrustworthy" about Ortiz publicly coming out denouncing his promoters negotiation tactics - thats laudable. Its public knowledge Ortiz has disagreed with what took place, Hearn is AWARE of this....

The greedy shyster Hearn, with his small flat fee offers, and lies he tries to dish on his own fighters (check their quotes concerning him) is not to be trusted. Hearn has gotta be backed into a corner RIGHT AWAY so he can't come up with some diversion talk (like the "NEXT WEEK" crap talk - what about NOW?)

Again, the fights a month away and Ortiz is SHOWING disdain with his OWN promotional team....Hearn is determined to put a spin on things and NOT try to reevaluate. You're FREE to trust him all you'd like - I don't. And, it is a "lowball" offer compaired to Miller considering NY taxes ("if" its less - we don't know, Hearn won't tell us).

Millers skill level compared to the only 2nd heavyweight southpaw in history is night and day. So it could very well mean they actually DON'T want the fight and was only using his "name".....I put NOTHING past Hearn, nor a PED cheat....

[KP1]

Fans like you and Hearn are now using the same excuse for not getting a contract when Wilder offered $50 million. Wait, no, Joshua did agree verbally, then they wanted to see the actual money, then they came up with the phony 24 hr deadline they had to sign to fight the mandatory Povetkin.

Holy Fuk some of you on here are thick in the head if you can't see through Hearn and Joshua's BS.

Lol what a monumental spunk trumpet you really are.

Remember when Wilder put a 24 hour deadline on the 50m offer, remember when they cancelled meetings, I suppose that’s all perfectly logical to you.

Anyway the Ortiz situation isn’t the same you dense dickhead, Joshua and Hearn showed immediate interest, you already said so yourself, did team Ortiz ?

No they didn’t did they, they rejected what was called lowball offers and only now at the 11th hour are they coming out with all this face saving bull ****.

He was one of the first names to be mentioned a week or so ago, most reports distanced him from the fight, not enough time, Wilder rematch promised, then when we did hear from them a few days ago it was rejecting lowball offers.

Why didn’t his manager contact Hearn at that point directly rather than ranting like a petulant child on social media, these guys are apparently on speaking terms.

Only after Hearn said he sent him a text asking what he was on about and claimed he could expose them did story completely change to blaming a promoter and how Ortiz is always in the gym and ready to go no problem.

Can Hearn expose them I dunno tbh but looking at how it caused them to 180 at neck breaking speed they clearly feel he can.

And fans like me are thick, good one, doss ****.

[KP1]

Whats sooo "untrustworthy" about Ortiz publicly coming out denouncing his promoters negotiation tactics - thats laudable. Its public knowledge Ortiz has disagreed with what took place, Hearn is AWARE of this....

The greedy shyster Hearn, with his small flat fee offers, and lies he tries to dish on his own fighters (check their quotes concerning him) is not to be trusted. Hearn has gotta be backed into a corner RIGHT AWAY so he can't come up with some diversion talk (like the "NEXT WEEK" crap talk - what about NOW?)

Again, the fights a month away and Ortiz is SHOWING disdain with his OWN promotional team....Hearn is determined to put a spin on things and NOT try to reevaluate. You're FREE to trust him all you'd like - I don't. And, it is a "lowball" offer compaired to Miller considering NY taxes ("if" its less - we don't know, Hearn won't tell us).

Millers skill level compared to the only 2nd heavyweight southpaw in history is night and day. So it could very well mean they actually DON'T want the fight and was only using his "name".....I put NOTHING past Hearn, nor a PED cheat....

This has all came out only after they were threatened with being exposed.

Is that really not fishy sounding to you.

[Boksfan]

Unfortunately Ortiz is too much of a coward to step up.

[lolasif]

Whats sooo "untrustworthy" about Ortiz publicly coming out denouncing his promoters negotiation tactics - thats laudable. Its public knowledge Ortiz has disagreed with what took place, Hearn is AWARE of this....

The greedy shyster Hearn, with his small flat fee offers, and lies he tries to dish on his own fighters (check their quotes concerning him) is not to be trusted. Hearn has gotta be backed into a corner RIGHT AWAY so he can't come up with some diversion talk (like the "NEXT WEEK" crap talk - what about NOW?)

Again, the fights a month away and Ortiz is SHOWING disdain with his OWN promotional team....Hearn is determined to put a spin on things and NOT try to reevaluate. You're FREE to trust him all you'd like - I don't. And, it is a "lowball" offer compaired to Miller considering NY taxes ("if" its less - we don't know, Hearn won't tell us).

Millers skill level compared to the only 2nd heavyweight southpaw in history is night and day. So it could very well mean they actually DON'T want the fight and was only using his "name".....I put NOTHING past Hearn, nor a PED cheat....

How the hell can they be trusted now? Ortiz can't make the fight himself. His manager can't make the fight for him. The only person who can make the fight is Ortiz's promoter, who if Ortiz's manager was telling the truth...didn't even tell Ortiz and his manager what was offered.

You can call it a lowball, but if Ortiz had accepted it, then it would have cost Matchroom more than Miller was costing. It's not Hearn's fault that Ortiz has a promoter taking 30%.

Give me a honest answer to this question. If Hearn phones up Ortiz's promoter right now, and asks him if they can do the deal for the offer made, do you think he would say yes?

Bear in mind that Jay Jimenez (Ortiz's manager) doesn't seem to believe that he would.

[lion33lit]

It’s always hearns fault with you lot isn’t it ?

Ortiz still has time to accept, according to reports deadline is today

Once the ship has fully sailed then Hearn will post the facts with evidence

We all already know team Ortiz lied about it being 5m as part of team have contradicted statements already and are pissed as it’s life changing money for Ortiz and his family

Hearn said it’s morw than 5m too

Ortiz ain’t feared, he fears Joshua and this is the clearest duck you can have

The chance to fight for three world titles and 7m. He runs like a coward

Shame on Ortiz and shame on anyone who supports this fraud

When Ortiz was home lounging in his hammock, why couldn't Hearn call him then - 3/4 yrs ago when everyone was going crazy over the cool southpaw Cuban with the undefeated record? or beforehand for this fight?? Why is a FULL CAMP so frowned upon, against what the Zombie Poshualite population deem as "OLD??"

I'll give u that, he's "old" in boxing years, but not old enough to be disrespected into not having a full camp - designed to have him in optimal shape and mindset for that HUGE twenty-something robot coming his way!

Joshua knew he was available BEFORE but was determined to promote boxing only on his island. He knew Ortiz called him out several times - he was IGNORED, only now - 5 weeks away (now 4) from fight night. ONLY NOW Hearn is responding because the spoiled pompous pampered robot wants him "now" as "first choice" ...even though he's "old." ...I don't who's the Chief Poshualite in the bunch, you, Sidknee or Lalagaigloungechair...lol.