They Trying To Get the Spence Hate Ball Rolling

[brettWall]

Did Spence tell Crawford to put all his eggs in Bob Arum's basket? I'm quite sure he has witnessed just as all of us who follow boxing that Bob And Al have seldom worked together on joint promotions. Did you miss that Arum just killed the Wilder-Fury rematch which PBC clearly wanted? But that's ok though right, Arum can say no but Al can't?

It's Crawford and his trainer who are putting pressure on Arum, not the other way around, at least at this stage of TC's career. Fans don't see that in Spence.

Don't care about the heavyweight division. I have very little interest in it. It had nothing to do with Crawford and Spence.

[SplitSecond]

It might seem that way, but I think it's frustration towards pbc at the moment. People love spence on here to a deluded level. I think im the only true spence hater, and I dont hate him. Just the hype.

[Code Red]

It's Crawford and his trainer who are putting pressure on Arum, not the other way around, at least at this stage of TC's career. Fans don't see that in Spence.

Don't care about the heavyweight division. I have very little interest in it. It had nothing to do with Crawford and Spence.

Didn't Bob have Pac fight every fighter in Top Rank's stable before he even considered putting him in with Floyd? Spence has quite a few PBC fighters to match up and unify with before a Crawford fight is even relevant for his team. Once again is there any point in dealing with another network and promoter when he got Fox/Showtime in the pocket?

[mathed]

Bob Arum must have employees working for Top Rank on this forum. I see the feeler threads being thrown out there trying to see how many dim witted fans they can hook. Who else notices the developing theme from certain posters, "Spence ducking Crawford" " Spence is racists look what he said about Golden Boy", "Spence hiding behind Haymon", "Crawford would of knocked out Mikey, who's better?" etc ...
Everything they write is written and slanted to be anti-Spence. So to counter the nonsense here is what I think..Spence is the best welter in boxing, should be top 3 p4p, would beat any current fighter at 147 today including Crawford!

I completely support PBC not doing business with Arum especially when you are selling more ppv than his best fighters and you have Pac, Porter, Garcia, Thurman, Broner, Spence etc...in your stable.

If Top Rank wants Crawford-Spence then TR will sacrifice to make it happen..no 50/50! Spence clearly has the leverage and he should rightfully use it! If you haters don't like that his message to Crawford is get in line then too bad! What you can do is keep watching ESPN+ mismatches on PPV. All of you know Crawford has 0 opponents in Bob's stable that any fan wants to see. TR has nothing they can offer Haymon that he can't get from his own fighters and events.

And on top of that there's the X factor...Floyd Money Mayweather, all he got to do is say I'm coming back and the boxing world empties their pockets! Top Rank and Golden Boy have already lost. PBC got it on lock!

So if you can't understand promotion, business, and leverage then keep writing your hater threads, all that means is PBC and Spence are doing something right.

The Truth #1

Actually the opposite seems to be the "truth" to me. I see people trying to justify Spence not fighting Crawford because "Crawford made his bed by signing with Top Rank, now he has to lay in it.", "Spence has all the top welters in his camp there is no need to face Crawford", "Crawford needs to leave Top Rank if he wants the fight", etc.

I know there are people working for PBC posting in here, protecting Spence and Wilder. Just like in politics, the people accusing "the other side" of things are typically the ones doing the dirt. It's a tactic taken from the ****s and adopted by the CIA actually. Lots of people are doing it in other arenas and for other purposes but I suspect you already know that.

[Code Red]

It might seem that way, but I think it's frustration towards pbc at the moment. People love spence on here to a deluded level. I think im the only true spence hater, and I dont hate him. Just the hype.

I see no reason to hate Spence, he goes in the ring and handles business, to hate on that is silly.

[Code Red]

Actually the opposite seems to be the "truth" to me. I see people trying to justify Spence not fighting Crawford because "Crawford made his bed by signing with Top Rank, now he has to lay in it.", "Spence has all the top welters in his camp there is no need to face Crawford", "Crawford needs to leave Top Rank if he wants the fight", etc.

I know there are people working for PBC posting in here, protecting Spence and Wilder. Just like in politics, the people accusing "the other side" of things are typically the ones doing the dirt. It's a tactic taken from the ****s and adopted by the CIA actually. Lots of people are doing it in other arenas and for other purposes but I suspect you already know that.

Spence aint doing nothing but going in the ring and winning, is it his fault he got good promotiion and great matchup's in his future and Crawfod don't?

[blue_dolphin]

Spence came across like a hoe who has future plans of ducking. why is he taking credit for the PPV sales vs Mikey? we all know the mexican-american base runs boxing. he aint no PPV star. lets see them put his fight vs Porter there then.. exactly.

Crawford is 31 theres no time to marinate. only in boxing do u see fans clamoring NOT to see the best matchups

[Code Red]

Spence came across like a hoe who has future plans of ducking. why is he taking credit for the PPV sales vs Mikey? we all know the mexican-american base runs boxing. he aint no PPV star. lets see them put his fight vs Porter there then.. exactly.

Crawford is 31 theres no time to marinate. only in boxing do u see fans clamoring NOT to see the best matchups

Really, so how many PPV's and financial records have Mikey sold and broken?

BTW, I would love to see the fight but there's no need to concede to any of Bob's demands, fight on Showtime/PPV, Haymon controls the promotion, and Top Rank gets the small pot. Do that and I'm sure the fight will happen.

[brettWall]

There are actually people who want to see Spence destroy Crawford. You can't necessarily assume they're rooting for Crawford to win. So this hate thing simply because he's with PBC seems irrelevant. Well, there are people who really hate anything coming from the other side no matter what. Reality is, fans would rather see the Crawford fight now rather than later. After the Porter fight, then what's next for Spence? 40 yr old Pac? Thurman and Garcia want to rematch each other or Pac, and want no part of Spence.

[blue_dolphin]

Really, so how many PPV's and financial records have Mikey sold and broken?

BTW, I would love to see the fight but there's no need to concede to any of Bob's demands, fight on Showtime/PPV, Haymon controls the promotion, and Top Rank gets the small pot. Do that and I'm sure the fight will happen.

man im not getting caught up in it like the Floyd n Pac mess. lets just all sit back and wait 6 years for it.. fck it . all i know is in a couple years these wont be prime elites clashing anymore. fans are losers in this