Juan Francisco Estrada is the new JMM

[JakeTheBoxer]

Lomachenko is 0-1 against Salido.

Golovkin is 0-1-1 against Canelo


Usyk fought with stra.ight **** and bums from Island, Bosnia, etc.

Usyk unified cruiserweight division, beating champs in their own countries and now will compete at heavyweight. he is doing excellent.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Usyk has fought excellent competition. Why try to bring him down to prove a point? Going to the backyard of unbeaten champions like Glowacki, Briedis and Gassiev to become undisputed is a huge deal. He also went to the backyards of Huck and Bellew and stopped them. His resume is excellent.

I have Usyk and Estrada in the top 5 pound for pound based on skill and resume.

Im doing the same of a lot of people here.

Man, look all the hate, its incredible.


"Sor lost the fight fighting orthodox".

When Estrada thrown more of 1000 punches, and he injured his right hand since round two in this fight.

The first fight was too close with Sor fighting southpaw and he was in troubles the later rounds...


Those fighters are good but not elite, and you know, I respect Usyk because he fought in the backyard of some champions but the skills of their rivals are not great in my opinion.


For example, whats the better achievement of Breidis or the guy from Poland?

[Larry the boss]

no........just no...

[Mexican_Puppet]

Usyk unified cruiserweight division, beating champs in their own countries and now will compete at heavyweight. he is doing excellent.

Beating champs?

How was the quality of these champs?

What's the better achievement of Breidis, for example...


Can you say me?

[chrisJS]

Im doing the same of a lot of people here.

Man, look all the hate, its incredible.


"Sor lost the fight fighting orthodox".

When Estrada thrown more of 1000 punches, and he injured his right hand since round two in this fight.

The first fight was too close with Sor fighting southpaw and he was in troubles the later rounds...


Those fighters are good but not elite, and you know, I respect Usyk because he fought in the backyard of some champions but the skills of their rivals are not great in my opinion.


For example, whats the better achievement of Breidis or the guy from Poland?

Glowacki dethroned Huck who’d been champion for about 6 or 7 years with a ton of defenses and then beat Cunningham. Briedis also had wins over Charr, Huck and Perez. Both had solid credentials for sure. The division was slept on.

Gassiev was a huge victory too. He’d proved his metal and unified titles. Another great win and the manner of the win total dominance.

Estrada is a quality fighter. I don’t believe him to have lost the first fight though I didn’t have an issue with the decision. Last night he knew he couldn’t let another fight be close and he dominated. Good too because two cards were still too close.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Glowacki dethroned Huck who’d been champion for about 6 or 7 years with a ton of defenses and then beat Cunningham. Briedis also had wins over Charr, Huck and Perez. Both had solid credentials for sure. The division was slept on.

Gassiev was a huge victory too. He’d proved his metal and unified titles. Another great win and the manner of the win total dominance.

Estrada is a quality fighter. I don’t believe him to have lost the first fight though I didn’t have an issue with the decision. Last night he knew he couldn’t let another fight be close and he dominated. Good too because two cards were still too close.

Chris you know that those fighters are not of world class, that's my poing, cruiserweight is a division without special rivals.

The better was Gassiev, that was a good win but Gassiev what did in boxing ? something great... ?

And you can look all the hate.

People from other countries talking more about the southpaw stance excuse when Estrada did a phenomenal job thrown more of 1000 punches, with skills, heart, fought in all the 3 distances, variety of punches, defense.

And thats because DAZN was crying about this the whole transmition and in the final interview


What a shame...

[chrisJS]

Chris you know that those fighters are not of world class, that's my poing, cruiserweight is a division without special rivals.

The better was Gassiev, that was a good win but Gassiev what did in boxing ? something great... ?

And you can look all the hate.

People from other countries talking more about the southpaw stance excuse when Estrada did a phenomenal job thrown more of 1000 punches, with skills, heart, fought in all the 3 distances, variety of punches, defense.

And thats because DAZN was crying about this the whole transmition and in the final interview


What a shame...

Those are world class fighters. Cruiserweight is slept on in the way that divisions below Featherweight are slept on.

I am going to watch the fight on TV now. I was surprised if he fought right handed so much. Maybe it was because by the end of the first fight he was being timed and hurt with straight rights so he wanted to switch it up? Strange strategy but I just feel Estrada is a superior fighter to him.

[EasternEuroFan]

And?

He dominated Sor clearly, the first fight was very close, this time Estrada schooled Sor and did a great job

No, he is not #1, nobody is clearly the #1 right now.

But he is better than Usyk and GGG and has a better career and achievements than them.

Both fights were 9-3, 8-4 kinda finds, with the right winner in both. So we can't say he's clearly better than Rungvisai.

And he isn't better than Usyk.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Those are world class fighters. Cruiserweight is slept on in the way that divisions below Featherweight are slept on.

I am going to watch the fight on TV now. I was surprised if he fought right handed so much. Maybe it was because by the end of the first fight he was being timed and hurt with straight rights so he wanted to switch it up? Strange strategy but I just feel Estrada is a superior fighter to him.

Ok, I know what I have to do...

What fighter of the list of rivals of Usyk was in a top-15 P4P list.


Who?


That's a excuse, Juan was not in the better shape in the first fight and it was too close with Sor in the southpaw stance.

But haters gonna hate

[Mexican_Puppet]

Both fights were 9-3, 8-4 kinda finds, with the right winner in both. So we can't say he's clearly better than Rungvisai.

And he isn't better than Usyk.

No, first one was too close and competite, the last one was a boxing clinic.


So, Loma can't say that he is better than Salido...

Yes, he is better, better skills, better career, better wins, better list of rivals, better all.