so they were willing to accept 500k against wilder but not 5 million against joshua because joshua is a much bigger star than wilder. and wilder wants 50/50 with joshua...
Listen, you're smoking crack if you think Luis Ortiz shouldn't take 5million.
this is a guy who came on a boat from Cuba 10 years ago with a mission to get proper healthcare for his daughter.
Whoever is advising him not to take this payday must be as ****** as the people advising Wilder to turn down 100million.
you think its just advice? there has to be some kind of legal control that haymon has where he doesnt let them take these great offers. no one is this "loyal"
you think its just advice? there has to be some kind of legal control that haymon has where he doesnt let them take these great offers. no one is this "loyal"
Of course. There's an Al Haymon contract floating around and it specifically states that the fighter has to ask permission to fight on non-PBC shows.
Ortiz is far more well known than Miller and a bigger attraction.
He'd also be taking the fight on short notice.
If Miller was getting 6.5, Ortiz should be getting at least 8. If Ortiz asked for 10, that means 8 is what he'd settle for.
If Hearn offered 5, that doesn't mean Hearn doesn't want the fight. You always low ball first. Always. Perhaps Hearn will offer 6.5 or 7 next.
But for you to say 5 isn't a low ball shows you're just completely brainwashed. Because if you don't think Hearn would low ball on his opening offer, that would mean Hearn is an incompetent promoter.
And Hearn may be a lot of things, but incompetent isn't one of them. He's one of the best promoters of the modern era and when all is said and done, he may go down as one of the best promoters of all time.
Another Wilder lapdog.
If Ortiz was so valuable he wouldn't be fighting for 200k on Erislandy Lara's undercard
Hearn's offer of 5mil was not an offer to fight Wilder it was an offer to fight AJ. Ortiz has more value than Miller but he wasn't even offered as much. Some of you guys act like you're 13 years old because you have no clue how the world works. By your ******ed logic, Miller should make what he did from his last opponent and should never have been offered the 6mil. Just stop trying to talk money until you get a job and figure out how this shyt works. You get paid based on the job.
This guy has to be the dumbest racist spastic on this site, and calls others ******ed.
Ortiz doesn't have more value. Miller was an undefeated top 10 American selected for an American debut. He had more value than a recently defeated Cuban for an American debut.
They can't get around this
Miller was OVERPAID. He was specifically chosen because of his value. What is that?
Of course. There's an Al Haymon contract floating around and it specifically states that the fighter has to ask permission to fight on non-PBC shows.
thats why its not really fair to bash wilder. he simply couldnt accept the offer. there must also be another contract where he has to lick haymon's balls publicly and pretend everything is ok even though he cost him 100 million.
you think its just advice? there has to be some kind of legal control that haymon has where he doesnt let them take these great offers. no one is this "loyal"
This is what I'm saying. DAZN's budget is 200m plus. PBC's budget is 90m.
Short notice replacements who are actually better than the original opponent, ones who change a fight from a forgone conclusion to an actual contest, those guys deserve more money, not less.
I don't think you understand that Hearn may be saving a few million but he is trading that for a fight far fewer folks will watch...in the US debut of his flagship fighter.
Not good at all.
Money is based on drawing power not talent. Ortiz doesn't draw a lot of money via ticket sales and or ratings. $5m is overpaying Ortiz just like $6.5m was vastly overpaying Miller. These guys are worth 2mill and that is being generous af based on the revenue they generate.
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