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I have always felt that there are many things we are not aware of with negotiations... Making it hard to make a statement about the results. BUT according to boxing norms, a kid making his way up, a prospect, etc... Might have a material affect on the sum offered, I get that.
But a seasoned fighter substituting for another fighter of similar agency... that presents a slightly different scenario. Baby Face has been around and so has Ortiz. The job at hand is to be a credible threat to Joshua based on a certain ability.
But back to my initial point: Are we entirely sold on the idea that Ortiz would be "clean" if he tested for this fight? Seems to me that may not be the case and would be a reason to cry foul at the offer.Comment
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Y'all keep bringing up his past paydays like that **** matters. Circumstances are different, vastly different. His stock has gone up since then. He would be fighting the second biggest draw in boxing right now. He's taking the fight on short notice. DAZN needs a big fight to move subs. If Ortiz feels like he deserves more and that he has the leverage to demand it I can't blame him. Seriously, Hearns should just open up the check book and stop being so damn greedy. What was McGregor's biggest payday before he fought Floyd? Nowhere near what he made fighting May, yet Floyd was willing to give him a good split to get the fight done.Comment
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Firstly McGregor was bringing 1million plus ppv buys with him it’s not the same.
How has Ortiz value gone up? What has he done since, earned more? Headlined his own shows? No. There’s no tangible evidence his stock has gone up. I’m not him if he thinks he’s worth more he should go for it but I’m not going to sit here and act like 5million is a shîtty offer considering he said he would fight for any amount and he was paid 500k to fight for one title and now he has the opportunity to fight for three. I think if you want to talk about who’s being greedy given the circumstances it’s ortiz.Comment
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I think 5 mil was a good offer for ortiz, they could have just offered him the same that they offered miller as well but at this point in ortiz career he should have taken it... but it seems like his promoter is the one who turned it down and he was ok with it. ConfusionComment
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Miller was gifted way too much too. Why?how does that make sense? explain your decision, don't just state it [twice
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miller has a much lower profile in the united states than ortiz, who was in a fight of the year candidate with an american HW who has crossed over a bit in deontay wilder. did he have wilder hurt or not? was the fight close and exciting, or not? miller is also ranked lower on any credible list at HW [FFS the guy was 320 lbs against thomas adamek.]
and ortiz is a knockout puncher while miller has relatively little power. so yeah, you shoot yourself in the foot when jarrel miller gets so much money if you aren't willing to pay a better replacement the same or more. did he deserve 10 million? of course not. but he deserved what jarrell miller was going to get. the only reason why i think he "should" have taken five million is because hearn wasn't offering any more. but that doens't make it "right" or just and that's soemthing you clearly don't get or care about.
you just can't let eddie hearn do a single thing wrong and it shows every time you post!
1) Undefeated
2) American
3) Trash talker
4) From New York
Which of these does Ortiz fit? zero.
7million or 5million or whatever he was offered is insanely good for anyone not named Wilder, Fury or Whyte.
He should have gone on his knees and thanked his lucky stars that AJ decided to bless him with life-changing money.
Turning it down out of principle is what keeps broke people broke.
He'll take 200k in his next fight.
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Tuesday - Luis Ortiz announces the fight with Anthony Joshua won't happen & accuses Eddie Hearn of "low-balling him".
Wednesday - Eddie Hearn threatens to "expose" Luis Ortiz's team on the offer.
Friday - Ortiz's team announce it's their fault the AJ fight isn't happening.Comment
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ttalk to me againhow does that make sense? explain your decision, don't just state it [twice ]
miller has a much lower profile in the united states than ortiz, who was in a fight of the year candidate with an american HW who has crossed over a bit in deontay wilder. did he have wilder hurt or not? was the fight close and exciting, or not? miller is also ranked lower on any credible list at HW [FFS the guy was 320 lbs against thomas adamek.]
and ortiz is a knockout puncher while miller has relatively little power. so yeah, you shoot yourself in the foot when jarrel miller gets so much money if you aren't willing to pay a better replacement the same or more. did he deserve 10 million? of course not. but he deserved what jarrell miller was going to get. the only reason why i think he "should" have taken five million is because hearn wasn't offering any more. but that doens't make it "right" or just and that's soemthing you clearly don't get or care about.
you just can't let eddie hearn do a single thing wrong and it shows every time you post!
Ortiz's own ***ing manager attacking their promoter for turning down this unbelievable promoter.
Worth more doe.
Man you guys are so thick it's unreal
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