Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Turned Down $5M, Asked For $10M To Fight Joshua 6/1

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  • bigjavi973
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    #381
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Really disappointing from Ortiz.

    Especially considering he has a chance to win aswell.
    theres absolutely no way anyone can blame hearn on this one......

    and thats coming from me cuz I think hes a greedy snake but 10 mill!!!!?????

    hes looking for a retirement check

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      #382
      Originally posted by blitted_master
      Nothing wrong with that. Taking a fight of this magnitude on such short notice, Ortiz deserves his big payday. Hearn is so tight-fisted with his money.


      youve been here since 2008 and only have 27 posts???????????



      hey guys should I ban this asshat yay or nay?????

      TBear BostonGuy jaded

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        #383
        Originally posted by Redgloveman
        Personally I would consider Ortiz more blameworthy than AJ/Hearn since Ortiz stands to lose a hell of a lot more than AJ if the fight doesn't happen.

        But I take your point that we don't have all the info as yet. It's just that even $5m is 10 times the dude's highest payday. In that context it's hard to see why Ortiz turned his nose up at it, especially when he claimed he'd fight AJ for free not so long ago.
        Why the desire to blame a side in a short notice fight negotiation?

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        • BostonGuy
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          #384
          Originally posted by bigjavi973


          youve been here since 2008 and only have 27 posts???????????



          hey guys should I ban this asshat yay or nay?????

          TBear BostonGuy jaded
          No, he's just a slow starter!

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            #385
            Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy
            Stop it! Lol

            Ortiz has face Kauffman, Hammer, Jennings, Scott, Thompson, and Wilder.

            Miller didn't quite reach that level just yet. I mean, hell, there's only like 10 HWs anyway. Lol
            How can you mention kaufmann, jennings, scott, thompson and hammer and talk about levels.

            What planet are you living on?

            Miller fought Duhaupas, Washington and wach. These guys are literally all exactly on the same low, fringe level.

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              #386
              Originally posted by bigjavi973
              theres absolutely no way anyone can blame hearn on this one......

              and thats coming from me cuz I think hes a greedy snake but 10 mill!!!!?????

              hes looking for a retirement check
              He was offered 7million! That is a retirement check!!

              Unless he was on that cuban orange juice

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                #387
                Originally posted by Boxing lives
                Wilder knocks everyone out. Doesn’t leave it in the judges hands. He’s put everyone he’s been in the ring with down
                Can't ever answer questions can you f3ck face? It's a huge problem for you.

                Wilder knocks everyone out does he? Yeah, he did a great job in the first Stiverne fight and with Fury. Jeez, ******ity is off the scale. Apart from Ortiz, who gassed out badly by the way, they were complete bums. So who cares if he knocked out a load of garbage? No one cares. Lets see the coward do it to Whyte and AJ. Oh no, wait, he's too scared and turning down his biggest paydays for them. Typical American coward he is. All he does is run from proper fights and struggles with bums until he finally knocks them out late in the fight. Great.

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                • Sid-Knee
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                  #388
                  Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy
                  Who are "you people"??? I assume you're from another country and you sound so upset about MY opinion.

                  Instead of challenging it or simply asking me to elaborate, you result to insults and witless banter.

                  You're probably small "in the pants" and can't accept it, so you hurl insults to make yourself feel better.

                  Move along.
                  Americans are "You people".

                  It was a crazed opinion that made no sense. Just like so many of "You people" do on here. If you can't see that Ortiz had set his bar for a world title fight at 500K then that's your fault, not mine. 5 Mill is huge. However, Hearn has come out and called that sum a lie and said he offered more than that. Ortiz is a joke that should be forgotten about and ignored after all his talk about wanting AJ at any price. He's proved himself to be a coward just like the rest are in the division.

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                    #389
                    Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy
                    Exactly! Why in THE hell were they ready to pay Miller THAT much money when he's done dick in the sport???

                    Boxing fans still see Ortiz as a threat and keep naming him in these "fantasy fights", but the second he asks for more money on short notice, he's being unreasonable???

                    Crazy.

                    Again, WTF has Miller done to deserve what they were about to pay him? He was about to get what, $6.5M? $8M?

                    People are crazy if they think Ortiz isn't worth that much but Miller is. Smh
                    Miller drew a hard bargain because AJ needed a fight. With everyone ducking, Miller was one of the only credible opponents left so he asked for a big wedge. Not because he was worth it.

                    The fact AJ has to pay the world just to get these cowards to fight is pathetic. They should be chasing him, not the other way round. He's not a f3cking charity.

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                      #390
                      Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy
                      Yes he was offered 10 times his highest payday, but isn't AJ a bigger star than Wilder (financially)?

                      I'm only coming from that angle because this is AJ's U.S. debut and he should be facing a decent opponent.

                      I mean, Miller was a decent choice, but everybody pretty much knew the outcome.

                      I'm in the mind that he doesn't necessarily deserve $10M, but I feel he should've gunned for that amount until they negotiated a lower price.

                      That $5M was probably a solid number, but sheesh....wouldn't you ask for a bit more? I mean, he IS fighting AJ of all people.

                      I won't argue you down about your point because it's valid as well and I appreciate....but it is AJ we're talking about here. Who's to say Ortiz would've gotten a call after he beat Miller?
                      The more money you earn, the more you give to the opponent? When did this become a thing? AJ generates that money, not his opponents. They should be thankful he exists in the division otherwise all they're going to earn is peanuts. Yet they still turn down massive paydays?

                      It's all f3cked up and crazy. Floyd never had this problem. And no American ever called for him to give more. But all of a sudden, a Brit is in the driving seat and those very people are up in arms. Hmmm. You know how Americans are constantly hating on AJ on here so they're just looking for any way to smear him and call him a coward and say he's the one ducking even though he's giving out the biggest paydays.

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