I don't wanna hear this 'Ortiz is a boogieman' BS ever again
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Yea PBC works with everyone. Eddie worked with everyone in the US...til he came to the US now he's much more selective. Bob works with virtually no one unless you let him decide the game being played.
No one is "skirting" the Ali Act you big silly. Or if anyone is the offended party is making too much money to care idk. I don't think in the history of the Ali Act anyone has been successfully charged or punished for breaking it.the other isn't. one side doesn't try to skirt the ali act. the other does.
Well thats definitely PBC. Thats why he's got the best reviews of any player in boxing since I've been watching boxing.one side truly works in the best interest of the fighters.
Eddie does good for his fighters to thats why he's got such loyal fighters on his squad. And if all this Joshua lowballing stuff is true he's ultimately looking out for his guy by doing that if its to avoid riskier fights & to maximize his money long term. So its not like doing things that piss off boxing fans, assuming he is doing so, isn't still in the best interest of his or whoever's fighters.
Thats a legit issue with PBC cuz I don't think anyone feels with PBC's quality of roster they are seeing as many big name vs big name fights as they wanna see.the other side works in the best interest of the networks they are tied to.
Thing is Eddie's DAZN run has been pretty trash. I think Eddie is the best promoter in boxing (& for the record I think Haymon is the best manager in boxing), but I think his US run hasn't been good. And its not good that Joshua vs Big Baby isn't happening cuz that was his first really good show, although I'm in the minority with that opinion it seems, & this Joshua vs Hunter thing is not gonna have the same appeal with most fans that even Big Baby had as an opponent.
2 is definitely wrong or Haymon fighters are lying against their own best interest. By all reasonable accounts Haymon pays his fighters the best money & in fact its often been quoted by guys like Hearn & Arum that Haymon in fact pays "too much money" ironically enough.hearn can't contact haymon to do a deal to put his fighter on fox for two reasons. 1. because that clearly violates the ali act, and 2. hearn's networks pay the most money.
And as to 1 I'd love to hear how Haymon "clearly" is violating the MAA? Please breakdown that for me cuz I'm legit curious how you think he's doing that. I think most of you cats have never even read the MAA to understand what could even be a violation, but if you are one of the few who speak on it who've read it I'm legit curious what you see as the issue.
LOL huh? Most of the DAZN offers have been deemed less then they are making now by the fighters themselves.again, i'll put it this way. haymon, as a supposed "adviser" has blocked waaay more fighters from earning highest paydays on DAZN than he has allowed.
The only one thats legit is Wilder's situation, but thats a situation thats been proven to be a lowball situation based on how it went from $15M for 1 fight to now a $120M for multiple fights offer in about 6-8mos I believe & all Wilder do is lose a fight in that time period as I see it & got an official draw on the books.
Who else has been offered "their highest payday" on DAZN?
Wilder is legit, but thats a long game situation that could end up working out or not.what's more, he's blocked them and somehow convinced them to take less money on other networks. Wilder. Ortiz. mell. mall. broner. davis. garcia. the list goes on.
We don't know sh^t about the Ortiz offer yet so idk how you seem to know something the rest of us don't.
I think Mall, Mell, Broner & Mikey have all said they are making more money with PBC. I think Mikey just made his best career high payday with the Spence fight actually.
The Tank situation is a lil trickier doe cuz Davis has a legit promoter unlike all the other guys mentioned. He's not reallllllly a free agent. He's a Floyd guy AND a PBC guy. Thats Floyd preventing him from earning bigger money with DAZN on some 3 fight deal like Eddie's giving those other guys. I don't know that I've heard Tank say he's making more with Floyd either & he certainly doesn't seem to have the best relationship with Floyd. But anyway thats a different situation being that Tank isn't even a free agent, but if he was a free agent I'd see your point with him as an example.Comment
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cool story bro.Yea PBC works with everyone. Eddie worked with everyone in the US...til he came to the US now he's much more selective. Bob works with virtually no one unless you let him decide the game being played.
No one is "skirting" the Ali Act you big silly. Or if anyone is the offended party is making too much money to care idk. I don't think in the history of the Ali Act anyone has been successfully charged or punished for breaking it.
Well thats definitely PBC. Thats why he's got the best reviews of any player in boxing since I've been watching boxing.
Eddie does good for his fighters to thats why he's got such loyal fighters on his squad. And if all this Joshua lowballing stuff is true he's ultimately looking out for his guy by doing that if its to avoid riskier fights & to maximize his money long term. So its not like doing things that piss off boxing fans, assuming he is doing so, isn't still in the best interest of his or whoever's fighters.Thats a legit issue with PBC cuz I don't think anyone feels with PBC's quality of roster they are seeing as many big name vs big name fights as they wanna see.
Thing is Eddie's DAZN run has been pretty trash. I think Eddie is the best promoter in boxing (& for the record I think Haymon is the best manager in boxing), but I think his US run hasn't been good. And its not good that Joshua vs Big Baby isn't happening cuz that was his first really good show, although I'm in the minority with that opinion it seems, & this Joshua vs Hunter thing is not gonna have the same appeal with most fans that even Big Baby had as an opponent.2 is definitely wrong or Haymon fighters are lying against their own best interest. By all reasonable accounts Haymon pays his fighters the best money & in fact its often been quoted by guys like Hearn & Arum that Haymon in fact pays "too much money" ironically enough.
And as to 1 I'd love to hear how Haymon "clearly" is violating the MAA? Please breakdown that for me cuz I'm legit curious how you think he's doing that. I think most of you cats have never even read the MAA to understand what could even be a violation, but if you are one of the few who speak on it who've read it I'm legit curious what you see as the issue.LOL huh? Most of the DAZN offers have been deemed less then they are making now by the fighters themselves.The only one thats legit is Wilder's situation, but thats a situation thats been proven to be a lowball situation based on how it went from $15M for 1 fight to now a $120M for multiple fights offer in about 6-8mos I believe & all Wilder do is lose a fight in that time period as I see it & got an official draw on the books.Who else has been offered "their highest payday" on DAZN?Wilder is legit, but thats a long game situation that could end up working out or not.
We don't know sh^t about the Ortiz offer yet so idk how you seem to know something the rest of us don't.
I think Mall, Mell, Broner & Mikey have all said they are making more money with PBC. I think Mikey just made his best career high payday with the Spence fight actually.The Tank situation is a lil trickier doe cuz Davis has a legit promoter unlike all the other guys mentioned. He's not reallllllly a free agent. He's a Floyd guy AND a PBC guy. Thats Floyd preventing him from earning bigger money with DAZN on some 3 fight deal like Eddie's giving those other guys. I don't know that I've heard Tank say he's making more with Floyd either & he certainly doesn't seem to have the best relationship with Floyd. But anyway thats a different situation being that Tank isn't even a free agent, but if he was a free agent I'd see your point with him as an example.
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Yes, I know he's a PBC shill and there's is no point trying to have a conversation with him. I'm just pointing out the ******ity of what he's saying there:
Hearn: "We'll pay you xxx$$$ to fight AJ"
Ortiz: "No way, that's a lowball ... but send me a contract anyway. Just make sure you throw it away after I sign it and send it back."
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Why is everyone a shill when they don’t agree though? I’ve been called a PBC, Top Rank and Golden Boy shill just for giving opinions on things.Yes, I know he's a PBC shill and there's is no point trying to have a conversation with him. I'm just pointing out the ******ity of what he's saying there:
Hearn: "We'll pay you xxx$$$ to fight AJ"
Ortiz: "No way, that's a lowball ... but send me a contract anyway. Just make sure you throw it away after I sign it and send it back."

I’ve found Panda to be pretty fair, he was the only American Eddie Hearn supporter when DAZN launched.
Frankie2jabs is a shill.Comment
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I used to think Panda was a fair poster and he probably still is, but not when it comes to PBC/Haymon and DAZN/Hearn.
He isn't ******, so how do you explain the idiotic rubbish he's been posting about Hearn lately, like the shit I responded to in this thread?
The fact that he was a Hearn/DAZN supporter, then completely changed his stance after taking a break from posting here, is the reason why I'm calling him out as a shill.
He isn't the only American DAZN supporter, btw, there are plenty of others.Comment
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Ortiz already swerved AJ once to fight Wilder instead, for a lot less money, so that would make sense. I wish they could be honest about it though, instead of trying to spin this narrative about AJ ducking both of them.Comment
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A lot of the so called ' fair and reasonable' posters are bias as hell when you see their angles on different topics over years and years.I used to think Panda was a fair poster and he probably still is, but not when it comes to PBC/Haymon and DAZN/Hearn.
He isn't ******, so how do you explain the idiotic rubbish he's been posting about Hearn lately, like the shit I responded to in this thread?
The fact that he was a Hearn/DAZN supporter, then completely changed his stance after taking a break from posting here, is the reason why I'm calling him out as a shill.
He isn't the only American DAZN supporter, btw, there are plenty of others.Comment
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