Is Danny Garcia even interested in fighting Terence Crawford?

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #61
    Originally posted by Zaryu
    It makes sense that you took issue with my criticism of Spence, but to be fair to him he's not the only one taking part on something like this. And he's not anywhere close to being the worst offender. I jumped on Canelo's case hard when he was delaying the GGG fight too. I've criticized both AJ and Wilder for their bull**** with the heavyweight division, and that one is the most frustrating to me at the moment by the way... I know this has been going on for a while, I just think it's gotten worse after Floyd.
    I think its the same ole thing. Marinating & specifically overmarinating fights has been a thing FOREVER. Since I've been watching boxing. Sh^t man I remember wanting to see Tyson vs Holyfield in late 88 or 89 & the fight wasn't even going to happen til late 90 (obviously Tyson's L pushed it back much further). Being patient is damn near a requirement as a boxing fan.

    And I would actually agree with you the Canelo thing was waaaaaay worse of a situation & I had criticisms with Canelo & GBP myself back then cuz GGG had been a long standing title holder & legit top 2 for some time with Canelo & even mandated by a ABC group to fight GGG & didn't do it initially. Now THAT was a bad look.

    This Spence vs Bud thing is only being talked about seriously now basically. Bud has 10 months at 147 & his best W is Horn ffs. Spence is still a newlywed title holder (under 2yrs) & his best W is Brook ffs. Bud's & Spence's 147lb resumes are garbage to what they could be in 15 months to 24 months (July-ish 2020 to Apr-ish 2021) & 2 to 3 fights from now.

    I mean the whole division is more disputed even if Bud & Spence are top 2 in the division. Spence, Bud & Thurman are all undefeated still & got some sorta belts. Porter gots some sorta belt & a disputed loss to Thurman. Manny gots some sorta belt & is a legend in the game. This is a 5 man division at the tip top that needs to get weeded out a lil more & with some enhancements made to the guys who are left standing, Bud & Spence in my estimation, before the big fight is as big as it'll be.

    I bring up Lomachenko because he could have easily stayed at 130lbs fighting nobodies while waiting for Davies or another super fight to come about, but he instead went up to135lbs and is actively trying to unify the division. This is impressive to me because he didn't even outgrow the 130, and still moved up once it looked like Davies was not in a hurry to fight him.
    Sure but there is a difference in mainstream levels with 147 & these lil guy divisions. And specifically with the possible drawing ability & popularity with Bud & Spence & guys like Loma & Usyk (who you mentioned too). Skill wise yea they are all high level mfers no question. But there is the popularity angle with casual fans that put Bud & Spence into a smaller more important space with potential to be involved in a 1M+ buy PPV/$70M+ revenue type fight that few guys are capable of ever in their careers & that Loma or Usyk will likely never experience (Usyk gots a solid chance if he can become the man at HW, Loma has a maybe 20% chance of reaching that level).

    I've always tried to look at things objectively and not rely on the agenda that benefits the fighters I like the most. I mean right now you just asked a lot more of Crawford than you do from Spence to prove he wants the fight when he's the only one talking like he's ready to roll right now. Maybe it was a purposeful extreme example, but still, I'm just speaking on what I see.
    Thats fair, but I kinda see you talking words overly seriously (imo) hence my extreme example of what would really prove intentions.

    Cuz I 100% believe NO ONE involved wants to make this fight in September despite believing the fighters themselves would be ready to go tomorrow if thats how things work. There is a middle ground between desire to fight a guy & making the best laid plans to maximize your upside financially for fighting a guy when its this level of an event within a couple more fights.

    And that middle ground hasn't been reached til some of these other guys like Thurman, Manny & Porter either prove me & others wrong about their standing right now or they fall from the level where they are at & Bud & Spence rise to a higher level in the hearts & minds of fans, specifically the casuals.

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    • Mister Wolf
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      #62
      Danny needs to fight Mikey and whoever loses should retire.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Boxing Goat
        When? I don't recall an offer at all? Doesn't Crawford just fight no hopers and faded fighters like Khan?
        I get it now....keep trolling, kid.

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          #64
          Originally posted by SniXSniPe
          Garcia straight up ducked Crawford. He doesn't want it.

          He gets his ass kicked by Crawford, and every single poster on this forum knows it.
          Wtf are you talking about? In what world did Danny Garcia duck Crawford?

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            #65
            Originally posted by BreWall
            Danny ain't fighting Crawford, too much risk...

            end of story.
            So the guy who was more than willing to face Thurman, Porter, Khan (back when that was a big deal), Mattesse (back when that was a HUGE deal) is scared of fighting Crawford? GTFOH

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              #66
              Originally posted by BreWall
              Garcia is not interested bro.
              Where did you come up with that conclusion?

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                #67
                Originally posted by genrick
                Any sign at all from the Garcia father and son team they want any part of Crawford?
                I have seen nothing so far.
                Have you seen anything that indicates they don’t?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by kraftzman
                  No he's not interested.
                  Based on what exactly?

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by boliodogs
                    It's not well known but Danny was offered 4 million bucks to fight Crawford before just Crawford fought Khan. His dad turned the offer down.
                    Link please. I’d like to see that.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Mister Wolf
                      Ugas beat Porter handily and Crawford would bully(just like Ugas) and batter Porter. Garcia is a flatfooted counterpuncher who is slow and only looks good vs fighters who don't move their head with little to no defense. His best win Matthysee was already outboxed by Judah and Alexander. Garcia needs to fight Lipinets or Ugas next and not need a gift decision to win.



                      Yeah "out jabbed"

                      Herrera has a nice jab...

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