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  • Ake-Dawg
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    #91
    Originally posted by BillyBoxing
    I never said bob is giving more money to his fighters than Al.

    I'm saying he's matching more and better his fighters.

    Al has the best hype machine, having Spence on the P4P top 4 with such a record is one of the greatest achievement in term of boxing hype.
    His PR and business is awesome.

    but boxing is still a sport even if getting closer to a show.

    His matchmaking is poor, most of his top fighters don't fight enough.
    If top rank is matching it's fighters better, tell me which were the best top rank fight in the last 3 years.

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #92
      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
      Bob is building the best fighters out shere, I believe Loma and bud are the two greatest current fighters along with Canelo.

      I also believe in teo and shakur he's building the 2 best prospects.

      Arum build greatness.
      I've never argued against Bob not building up guys better than most everyone in the business if not everyone in the business. Many times I think he's overly careful for too long with guys, but you can't argue with his success rate. Thing is with the lack of overall talent in TR's roster TR's next stage at building the Loma's & Bud's into the Manny's & Oscar's most popular boxers in the sport & PPV superstars no longer works without being able to make deals out of house. And out of house deals are where TR has a awful history of failure. No one is good at everything & neither is TR.

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      • Bullrider
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        #93
        This Ellerbe guy can't handle big boys talk. He's not fit for this kind of business.

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        • buddyr
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          #94
          Originally posted by DaNeutral.
          And fury over wilder? Calzaghe Hopkins? Maybe it's true, I'm not from the US but when I look at the wealth and fame of some of these black American sports stars who you can find in forbes rich list and some poxy google hit list ranking I wonder if that view you have is shared across the nation.

          Maybe it is.. So if we had a white and a black boxer, equal in ability, America would automatically cheer for the white man because of his colour?
          YES!!!. That's why I said that Lomachenko with his skill level isn't a superstar and it's all Arum's fault. He simply doesn't not know how to promote him. Arum has the top 2 fighters in the world in his stable and they aren't household names yet in this era of technology. wtf. Lopez calling out Lomachenko, they should make the fight and let Loma beat the hell out of him. That's what Trinidad used to do. He'd get the rising stars on the way up before they became more seasoned and a problem for him in he future.

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          • MC Hammer
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            #95
            Originally posted by BillyBoxing
            Bud and Loma have better records than any PBC fighters.

            I won't enter in details, especially with people bringing up effing Easter lipinets and Broner, would be a waste of time.

            To make great fights, like AJ Vs Wilder, Loma Mikey, bud Vs Spence, Charlo Vs Jacobs, maybe we need in boxing PBC to be able to find agreement with others promoters.

            Somehow it seems it can't be done, and it's strangely always others promoters fault...
            I won't actually back up my point with details I'll just expect people to accept my opinion as fact.

            And Wilder-Fury was with another promoter so what are you talking about? What major risk fight have the other promoters put on with their top guys? To get Wilder fights each of them tried to force him into a network deal where they made his decisions. The same was done to Shawn Porter for Crawford. When have they shown willingness to do a 50/50 with no options?

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            • joseph5620
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              #96
              Originally posted by deanrw
              Arum did not kill anything. You watch any Fox or Showtime broadcast and they don't even mention Crawford's name. In fact they act like he does not even exist.


              Someone remind me when the PBC side have ever mentioned Loma or Crawford as potential opponents for Mikey/Tank or Spence. The only time they talk about them, it is to discredit them as possible opponents.


              You guys are acting like Arum is making the fight not happen now. Arum is the only damn one talking about those potential fights and why they should happen. Ellerbe only talks as to why fights are not going to happen.


              "Talking" about a fight is not making it happen. That's not how it works. Arum slandering Al Haymon with his typical lies does nothing to make the fight happen.

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              • Sweden2716
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                #97
                Someone brought up Shakur Stevenson's name, he should be in jail , he is coward that swings at women and hits defense-less guys on the ground. Scumbag.

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                • SkillspayBills
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                  #98
                  Bob Arum, the man that had one fighter fight the same 3 people 11 ****ING TIMES, has the nerve to call someone else a scammer? He's one of the very worst people on the planet.

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                  • methodcal
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
                    Call a spade a spade!

                    Haymon doesn’t have to
                    Make the fight, Spence has Porter, Thurman, Danny, Pacquiao and Ugas!

                    Spence will be IBF/WBC/WBA champ with a bigger following and better welterweight resume and resume in general and likely etch higher in p4p lists while Bud
                    Will drop lower, fight lesser opponents and less following and with only 1 belt!

                    This is likely the plan, Bud should’ve never resigned with Top Rank! Bomac and Bob is failing him!
                    Was just telling my homie the same exact thing...

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                    • methodcal
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                      #100
                      [QUOTE=TreJac;19681001]The lame "never should've resigned" excuse is getting old! The points you're making makes you sound like a fanboy/promotional/social media groupie! "My guy has more titles, my guy has more followers, my guy has prettier teeth", which has nothing to do with the actual fight! I notice how you Spence fanboys are coming up with more excuses on why the fight shouldn't happen! Bud got you clowns shook![/QUOTE


                      Arum got a few of yall HOODWINKED 😉

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