Comments Thread For: Ellerbe: Arum Lost His Mind, He Talks **** and Then Wants a Deal

[H.B.Viper]

You are very wrong

Arum did not kill anything. You watch any Fox or Showtime broadcast and they don't even mention Crawford's name. In fact they act like he does not even exist.


Someone remind me when the PBC side have ever mentioned Loma or Crawford as potential opponents for Mikey/Tank or Spence. The only time they talk about them, it is to discredit them as possible opponents.


You guys are acting like Arum is making the fight not happen now. Arum is the only damn one talking about those potential fights and why they should happen. Ellerbe only talks as to why fights are not going to happen.

For years the HBO Team(promoted by TR)NEVER mentoned PBC fighters.
Lampley had his "Fight Game"where he would name his top fighters.
Not once was any PBC fighters made the list.
So stop the BS!

[AdonisCreed]

Bob you can't be talking sh** to people you're trying to do business with that's not a good look. Especially when you're low on options already.

Haymon could match Spence vs Crawford. And IF Spence were to win in convincing fashion that would leave Bob with nothing at WW.

With that said this isn't good for boxing that the big names can't/won't fight each other because they are tied to different networks and promoters SMH

[MC Hammer]

Fox and showtime fights have failed so far thanks Al Haymon. Gervonta, Shawn porter, and Danny fights drew little crowds at the dignity center.

So Cali is failing not the other sites then. Barclays continues to boom as did At&t. I feel like the Cali arena is only for Mexican fighters and they need to put black fighter in black areas. Atlanta, DC, Houston Baltimore will be best.

On the other hand, ESPN and Dazn have been terrible and lower than PBC in tickets and views

[MC Hammer]

Bob must've told the truth to rattle all these PBC ****. Btw, what Ellerbe's got to do with it unless he's now Hamon's Uncle Tom.

An obviously white man calling a black man an Uncle Tom for supporting another black man. Can't make this **** up

[Ake-Dawg]

Bob is building the best fighters out shere, I believe Loma and bud are the two greatest current fighters along with Canelo.

I also believe in teo and shakur he's building the 2 best prospects.

Arum build greatness.

In haymonland it remains to be seen, which great fighters is he building despite having 50% of top fighters working on his side?

That's the elefant in the room.

Haymon is not a promoter yes, as an adviser ect... He's more than that.

He "promoted" low risk, high rewards boxing to the next level.

On PBC they are wasting the Charlos, tank, Spence, wilder ect ...they have been pros for a while but their records hold one good win.

The only ones they didn't pamper lately is Mikey.

Porter is taking fights too, props. Proving it is possible.

PBC is about chasing easy dollars, not chasing greatness, PBC company boxers all fine fighting utter NABF cans for good money, good for fighters, but bad for boxing.

But overall this is a pampers opera.

If bob is like you say a cancer to boxing while producing the bud Lomas, then haymon is boxing AIDS...

Promoters don't train fighters and this don't build Fighters. Besides, Bob arum has a match maker on the payroll. Further, think of the amount of times you have heard that a top-rank fighter is fighting someone that Bob didn't want them to fight.

Crawford and Loma are on the bottom half of the top 10 pound-for-pound when it comes to make his money. As good as they are why don't they sell?

[MC Hammer]

What is this white Boxer thing? The truth is Lomachenko would be a massive star in America if he was AMERICAN. White, black, brown, purple it dont matter what colour he is he isnt a massive star in America because he is not AMERICAN. Its not impossible for a foreigner to be huge in the States but its really damn hard.

And that aint no anti American statement, its the same for every country in the world. Nationalism is what gets the fans behind the fighter not the colour. Saying somebody should be doing better cuz he is white is a racist thing to say.

Race Trumps nationality in the US. That's why Connor McGregor can be an alleged rapist, make racist comments and some more things and get a heroic welcome while Mayweather is the scum of the earth. Why Pac was supported over Bradley and Kovalev over Ward.

[MC Hammer]

When you have to defend PBC for somehow doing in house fights, you know there is something wrong and you are not getting co promoted fights

Yeah they can do in house fights.

Porter is the less cold feet out there.

But look at tank, wilder, Charlos, Spence....

Poorly managed, low risks, high rewards great for them.

They are not making the HOF let alone ATG lists with that PBC politics...

But if you guys are fine with that, cool.
I'm not.

What great fights have TR put on? In house or out. TR is giving us Fury vs Shwartz while PBC did Wilder-Fury. What have they given us with Crawford that was better than Spences Brook fight? Mickey out here fighting Broner, Easter and Lippinents while Loma swinging at Pedraza and Linares.

[DaNeutral.]

Race Trumps nationality in the US. That's why Connor McGregor can be an alleged rapist, make racist comments and some more things and get a heroic welcome while Mayweather is the scum of the earth. Why Pac was supported over Bradley and Kovalev over Ward.

And fury over wilder? Calzaghe Hopkins? Maybe it's true, I'm not from the US but when I look at the wealth and fame of some of these black American sports stars who you can find in forbes rich list and some poxy google hit list ranking I wonder if that view you have is shared across the nation.

Maybe it is.. So if we had a white and a black boxer, equal in ability, America would automatically cheer for the white man because of his colour?

[UFC_Boxing]

Spence need Crawford as much as the opposite. Beating the other Haymon fighters might bring monney, but wont do anything for his legacy. He will never be considered a top p4p until he can prove it against crawford

[SCEN3RY]

I just hate the hypocrisy - not enough people know Spence and Crawford although they're both headlining, but he wants Loma to fight Teofimo next for a fight that has even less demand. PBC/Ellerbe have their agenda like anyone else and it's high time people call them out like they do Arum. I don't agree with it, but this talking sh#t stuff didn't seem to matter when GB/Floyd/Ellerbe and his entire team were talking bad on Pac and still wanted to make the fight happen. All of sudden these guys are holier than thou? GTFOH and develop as thick a skin as you expected from others. Fookin hypocrites are the worst.

Ellerbe acting like he's never said a single bad thing about Top Rank. They've always been softies who dish it out but can't take it. Hearn was right, these guys take everything personal and don't even want to negotiate.