I've seen enough. My UPDATED "P4P" Ranking...

[IceTrayDaGang]

porter??? you dont get credit for losing the big fights.... in that case, amir khan should be #1.

[Combat Talk Radio]

porter??? you dont get credit for losing the big fights.... in that case, amir khan should be #1.

If everyone is not in agreement that you lost, it's a different conversation. Means you put up a hell of a fight even in loss and convinced some that you won it.

Especially when it's at the top of the division.

[IceTrayDaGang]

If everyone is not in agreement that you lost, it's a different conversation. Means you put up a hell of a fight even in loss and convinced some that you won it.

Especially when it's at the top of the division.

he gets credit for taking on the big fights.... BUT that shouldnt move him up the ladder, especially when he lost those big fights. props for taking on the challenge but that's it. it shouldnt move him up, ranking wise.

[Combat Talk Radio]

he gets credit for taking on the big fights.... BUT that shouldnt move him up the ladder, especially when he lost those big fights. props for taking on the challenge but that's it. it shouldnt move him up, ranking wise.

Once again, I move him up BECAUSE if you go to every fight he's lost so far, there's disputes about whether he lost. He takes the upper echelon to the limit, every damn time, even people's 'eye test' Errol Spence. I'm sorry, but I think The Big Dunn is who said it best - if it takes a P4P level fighter to beat you and even then they can't do it clearly, you just might be a P4P.

[EdWins]

who the fúck is 'Carnelo'?

[BoxingIsGreat]

Best boxers in the world: P4P is BS

Davis
Crawford
Estrada
Inoue
Loma
Spence
Usyk
Katie Taylor
Canelo
Lubin

That's it! The rest are between OK and good boxers, and some with a potential.

[Combat Talk Radio]

who the fúck is 'Carnelo'?

Carne = meat, in Spanish.

When Saul Alvarez tested positive for a PED, what was his excuse?

Tainted meat.

I'm sure you can put the two together.

Best boxers in the world: P4P is BS

Davis
Crawford
Estrada
Inoue
Loma
Spence
Usyk
Katie Taylor
Canelo
Lubin

That's it! The rest are between OK and good boxers, and some with a potential.

Bro, your list isn't even worth conversation. You got Katie MF'n Taylor listed and NO other welterweight besides 'eye test' Crawford. Seriously? So to you, Katie Taylor is better than Manny Pacquiao. K bro

[_Rexy_]

where's Jeff Horn?

[Roadblock]

Makes no sense when you have a loser higher than the guy that beat him fair and square in a unification bout, and Horn is a bum by world standards, Im Aussie so no hate here, he is just not an A grade fighter no way no how.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Carne = meat, in Spanish.

When Saul Alvarez tested positive for a PED, what was his excuse?

Tainted meat.

I'm sure you can put the two together.




Bro, your list isn't even worth conversation. You got Katie MF'n Taylor listed and NO other welterweight besides 'eye test' Crawford. Seriously? So to you, Katie Taylor is better than Manny Pacquiao. K bro

Yes, sir. She's better at this point. Put your gender bias aside.

And I'm almost one of the only guys who agrees with you on this board that Horn beat the Pacman legitly. Horn isn't even a C level boxer.

My list is more legit than yours, and P4P is a myth. Those I listed are the special ones. Next to them, Horn isn't even 5% skilled.