Bob Arum More Interested in Winning the Media Battle

[KTFOKING]

Find me proof he hasn't? You think 80 year old arum who has nothing to lose is trying to stop the fight from happening shows how biased you really are. There's only camp pushing for the fight and it's not spence. Ask spence about the crawford fight and his reply is who has crawford fought?

Find you proof of something you claimed to happen, huh??? All you have to do is find me where Arum has said they have reached out to Spence's camp to make the fight happen, that's all. Should be easy right?

I mean if that did happen, why would Arum not mention that during the lead up of the fight? Why would Arum say something completely different the entire time? And when exactly would Arum have reached out to Haymon to make the fight considering Crawford just got to WW 10 months ago? When exactly would he have reached out to him? Spence/Garcia was announced in November, and really everyone knew it was happening at least a month or two before that. Crawford/Benavidez took place in October, so when exactly would Arum have reached out to make the fight? What am I missing here?

[sicko]

From a fan stand point...MAKE THIS FIGHT NOW!

However, if I was in Haymon shoes and from a business standpoint and when it comes to Arum I would be like...


Being disrespectful doesn't get you what you want...again from Haymon's stand point again: "You Need Me Old Man I Don't Need You!"

First of all who cares about winning the Media Battle, WTF is that going to do...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like it did absolutely Nothing to Mayweather but make some Boxing Writers waste a Decade+bashing Mayweather while he got Wealthier and Wealthier the entire time and they have nothing to show for it

Haymon has the ROSTER, he has the TALENT they so desperately NEED! The biggest matches in boxing (AJ vs Wilder, Spence Jr vs Crawford) don't get made without him and THAT is what Arum absolutely hates that he is not in control

Again from a Haymon/Business Stand Point I honestly would rather work with Hearn and DAZN before working with Arum and ESPN.

As a fan which is what I am...I don't care about none of this BS, just make the damn fights we the fans don't have time for all these EGO Showdown among people who none of us buy PPV's or get Subscriptions to a APP to see THEM! It is about the fighters and it shouldn't be about them, honestly we shouldn't even know who Arum, Hearn, Haymon and all these guys are because none of them even fight

[KTFOKING]

Not after tonight’s shtick
Haymon will have to reply
This fight will get made by preassure
Imo the fight will get made and will be a huge success bringing along Tank vs Loma

Haymon will have to reply to exactly who? And what exactly will he be replying about? That man damn sure isn't replying publicly....TO ANYONE lol.

Fight will happen, I agree. I'm just bewildered how the fight is being prevented by a certain someone....When no phone call or discussion about the fight has taken place, that's all.

[KTFOKING]

Bob Arum is a sleazy horrible fight stopping mobster, thats all he is. But this mobster has been talking about trying to make Bud v Spence straight after he beats Khan, can we believe him? No. But then ive noticed the "other side of the street", on this occasion Leonard Ellerbe, reacting with a video claiming nobody at PBC is interested in making a fight with Spence right now. Something about Spence being at the back of the queue.

Like i said, do i trust Bob? No, but when you got 1 side making statements that they have no interest in fighting Crawford any time soon and it sounds like it dont matter if i trust Bob or not.

But then it could just be more lying all round. It seems to be the current way of doing, or rather not doing business in America right now. Its just a race to see who can get a statement out dismissing the other side 1st or just lying or something. These guys are doing nothing to make good fights over in America they just send out statements saying they want the fights its "the other side" that doesnt.

I mean who really believes anybody at the PBC wants Wilder v Joshua?????? They tell you that they do, they tell you its Hearn and Joshua that dont want it but what have they done to make it? That 50 Mill offer where they refused to send the contract? Other than that they have turned down about 7 or 8 offers to face Joshua, make a shed load of excuses but STILL make statements about they want the fight, they are trying to make the fight and its the other side Hearn and Joshua that are stalling and dont want the fight.

Its what they do, but then its also what Bob does.

Bob could 10000000000000000% be serious about wanting this fight to happen....And happen soon. That could be true. However, the point is how all week he used Spence's name to help sell this PPV by saying he will be giving a call to Haymon after the fight to make it happen....Only to right after the fight, go on a rant on how Haymon doesn't want the fight to happen. That was the only and MAIN point of this thread. A man that does that is only interested in winning the media PR battle. He went against everything he said in the lead up of this fight.

[MulaKO]

Haymon will have to reply to exactly who? And what exactly will he be replying about? That man damn sure isn't replying publicly....TO ANYONE lol.

Fight will happen, I agree. I'm just bewildered how the fight is being prevented by a certain someone....When no phone call or discussion about the fight has taken place, that's all.

Told you , the Bobfather is old
That was his way of making the phone call
Maybe not Haymon himself but their will be some kind of response

[KTFOKING]

Told you , the Bobfather is old
That was his way of making the phone call
Maybe not Haymon himself but their will be some kind of response

Will there though? I mean Arum is the one who will call supposedly call him early next week. I'm sure Arum will give Haymon's response himself lol.

[DaNeutral.]

Bob could 10000000000000000% be serious about wanting this fight to happen....And happen soon. That could be true. However, the point is how all week he used Spence's name to help sell this PPV by saying he will be giving a call to Haymon after the fight to make it happen....Only to right after the fight, go on a rant on how Haymon doesn't want the fight to happen. That was the only and MAIN point of this thread. A man that does that is only interested in winning the media PR battle. He went against everything he said in the lead up of this fight.

I actually agree, i have no faith in Arum and i can completely believe he has as much interest in actually making this fight as Al Haymon does, which is zero. Ive been saying this for 2 years, Bud and Crawford wont fight until its really too late to mean much.

But as for your main point, i competely agree with it too. How can Bob Arum claim he is going to ring Haymon straight after the fight to try make the big one yet straight after the fight he is claiming Haymon dont want it even though he hasnt even made the call yet.

Its what i said in my 1st post, its what they do, neither Arum or Haymon will have any intentions on making that fight, all their intentions will be on making it look like they do and that its the other side that doesnt. Thats all that seems to be happening these days. Not attempting to make fights but releasing so many statements trying to convince you that they are and its all being let down by the other side.

But on this occasion i saw Ellerbe putting people straight that they have no interest in making the Spence fight next against any of the PBC stable and that just gives Bob Arum all the license he needs to come out with statements like he has tonight.

[KTFOKING]

I actually agree, i have no faith in Arum and i can completely believe he has as much interest in actually making this fight as Al Haymon does, which is zero. Ive been saying this for 2 years, Bud and Crawford wont fight until its really too late to mean much.

But as for your main point, i competely agree with it too. How can Bob Arum claim he is going to ring Haymon straight after the fight to try make the big one yet straight after the fight he is claiming Haymon dont want it even though he hasnt even made the call yet.

Its what i said in my 1st post, its what they do, neither Arum or Haymon will have any intentions on making that fight, all their intentions will be on making it look like they do and that its the other side that doesnt. Thats all that seems to be happening these days. Not attempting to make fights but releasing so many statements trying to convince you that they are and its all being let down by the other side.

But on this occasion i saw Ellerbe putting people straight that they have no interest in making the Spence fight next against any of the PBC stable and that just gives Bob Arum all the license he needs to come out with statements like he has tonight.

Call me naive, but I do see the fight happening since both fighters will push for it and make it happen. But Arum played a slimy game here and he knows it. If he was TOTALLY serious about the fight and not winning the media game, he would have repeated what he said all week and said I will be giving Haymon a call soon in getting this fight happen. Then the man called to boycott PBC fight lmao.

I really gotta find this video of Ellerbe saying what he did, because he is a complete moron if he talked about freezing out Crawford. WTF? You want to see these great match ups, especially this one which is currently the best fight to make in boxing.

[Ray*]

No doubt he is winning the battle to some...And my point he is he is more interested in winning the PR battle more than anything. Everything he said post-fight went against what he said the week of the fight.

Spence/Porter, Thurman/Pacquiao....And if I'm Arum, while calling Haymon to get the Spence fight rolling, in the mean time he discusses trying to get Danny Garcia for Crawford next. That would be great. Both guys fought today and are on the same schedule. Garcia isn't getting any other top PBC fighter unless he wants to take on a risky Ugas. Give Garcia 6M+ for the fight and make it happen. If Garcia wants even more, may just have to take a loss and give him around 8 or so million for the fight.

How do we know they haven’t contact Haymon yet? They already spoke to Team Garcia to see if they would be interested last time, and Team Garcia came out publicly and said they weren’t.

Am not for “Winning” PR battles, more of let’s get these unification sorted but to be honest looking at Haymon/PBC track record and their lack of pushing for unification fights! I wouldn’t criticise Arum for going public about Haymon, if shaming Haymon in public means we get the unification fights that we want then am all for it.

If shaming Haymon means less sales for them and then making them wanting to get their fighters in unification with other champs who are on the other side of the streets then perfect for boxing fans. Our main priority is boxers unifying their division.

[KTFOKING]

How do we know they haven’t contact Haymon yet? They already spoke to Team Garcia to see if they would be interested last time, and Team Garcia came out publicly and said they weren’t.

Am not for “Winning” PR battles, more of let’s get these unification sorted but to be honest looking at Haymon/PBC track record and their lack of pushing for unification fights! I wouldn’t criticise Arum for going public about Haymon, if shaming Haymon in public means we get the unification fights that we want then am all for it.

If shaming Haymon means less sales for them and then making them wanting to get their fighters in unification with other champs who are on the other side of the streets then perfect for boxing fans. Our main priority is boxers unifying their division.

I mean when has Arum EVER claimed to have talked to Spence's camp about making the fight? If that was the case, Arum would have mentioned that already. Except he said the complete opposite leading up to the fight and said he will be contacting Haymon AFTER the Khan fight.