Bob Arum More Interested in Winning the Media Battle

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  • Motorcity Cobra
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    #31
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
    I'm no TR fan but it's ****** to call this a bluff when the guy goes this far out of his way to make a statement. Who do you think he's "bluffing"??? A bunch of nerds on NSB? If he didn't want the fight he could have just kept low about it. It would make no business sense to make a bluff like this. Arum essentially "went to the trunk" on Haymon and it serves no purpose other than to try to force the fight. Don't be a midslave to your promoter of choice.
    I heard an interview with Tim Smith from PBC last year and he said this exact thing is going to happen. He because Arum doesn't have anyone for Crawford to fight he's going to have to use the media to keep Crawford happy by claiming he's trying to make big fights for him. But Arum hasn't called them about any fights.

    Then Arum proved him correct when Arum said he called Danny Garcia's father, not Haymon, to make the fight.

    Arum has gone from Haymon doesn't exist, Haymon is a cancer, Haymon doesn't tell his fighters about offers, to I'm going to call Haymon tomorrow.

    The interviewer tonight started the question off by saying "You've worked with Haymon before" and Bob immediately cut him off and went into his schtick about Haymon not working with Top Rank

    Its all an act

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    • MulaKO
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      #32
      Originally posted by KTFOKING
      Ellerbe is a moron for that. I haven't seen the video yet and will look for it.

      But Ellerbe isn't involved in Spence's career at all. And Arum LAST week on Steve Kim's and Mario Lopez's podcast was actually saying what he said post fight. He was blaming Haymon for the Spence/Crawford fight not happening...And literally two minutes later mentioned he will be giving Haymon a call first thing Tuesday or Wednesday lol. So Arum was saying this even before Ellerbe made whatever statement he made.
      First off , the Bobfather is as old as fugh
      Probably losing his fughin mind lol
      But again him coming out and saying what he said tonight , imo , would be to get the ball rolling
      Might not be the right way but it’s a start

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      • Ray*
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        #33
        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        LOL, the thing here is he is already talking about Haymon blocking the fight WITHOUT YET HAVING CALLED Haymon. Like how ****** does he think people are? He has to do this to show Crawford, "see, it's not me, it's Haymon the reason you are not getting these big fights!" This was totally peak Arum post fight. All week he uses Spence as one way to sell the fight saying he will call Haymon right after the fight to make that fight....And right when the fight happens, and before he has made the phone call, he says Haymon is preventing the fight? Huh? So if he is preventing the fight, why would he all week say he will call him to make the fight? Something isn't adding up here.

        Arum is a guy that will try to throw as much BS as he can in hoping it is enough to win the media battle. Praises Haymon for Wilder not taking DAZN's deal since it benefits him and his fighter Fury....Kills Hearn for tying up to DAZN and preventing the big fights (not true), and now kills Haymon for preventing the Spence/Crawford fight without making any effort to make the fight yet?
        Like I said he is winning that battle. We want to see Crawford against the other guys, so far Arum’s side seems like the ones wanting those fights. So whether he is lying or not people are going to go with his side, oppose to the other side that has been silent or saying “He is on the other side of the street”

        My thing is this, when you have someone on camera talking about wanting the fight, and the person has actually done something in boxing and he is bringing something to the table then I would believe he wants that fight.

        Let Spence and Porter fight next, I have no issue with that fight, but it should be strap season for those belts at 147, get all of them belts together.

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        • kej718
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          #34
          Haymon will do what is best for the fighters even when they are not his own. He gave Fury a 50/50 split, for the first fight and now we don't get a rematch with the same split because Fury signed with Top Rank. You people seriously think Haymon is the problem. No one hads ever said you need to boycott Top Rank when we don't get the fights we want. Arum said he was the one that blocked Crawford vs Pacqaio. Remember when we wanted to see Yuriorkis Gamboa and Juan Manuel Lopez fight and Arum wanted to let it get bigger (sad thing is we will probably get that fight now with the PBC)? Tim Bradley was Spence's mandatory at one point why didn't Arum make that fight? He also has Konstantin Ponomarev that was Spence's eliminator opponent and didn't make that fight either.
          Last edited by kej718; 04-21-2019, 12:42 AM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by KTFOKING
            Nope, that NEVER happened. See, don't try to play this BS game with me. Arum said earlier in the week, I will be calling Al Haymon on Tuesday or Wednesday to make this fight. Said as long as he hasn't changed his number, he will give him a call.

            Find me where Arum has said he has reached out to Haymon to make this fight...And don't try to come with some BS, don't worry, I'll wait.
            Find me proof he hasn't? You think 80 year old arum who has nothing to lose is trying to stop the fight from happening shows how biased you really are. There's only camp pushing for the fight and it's not spence. Ask spence about the crawford fight and his reply is who has crawford fought?

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              #36
              Originally posted by SCEN3RY
              Arum said he'll try. I can only think he will bc he just put a lot of public pressure on everybody. You know media is going to ask about the fight more and more from here on. It's going to be hard to back track on those statements. And I think Arum feels pressure from Crawford for more ppv bouts. Crawford said he long deserved to be on ppv, but you need names for that. Bc tonight shouldn't have truly been a ppv fight.
              Cool! But my thing is he hasn't tried yet...Correct? So if he hasn't tried yet, why is he already saying the fight is being prevented by Haymon? Something isn't adding up here. All week he used Spence's name to try to sell the fight saying he will call Haymon first thing on Tuesday or Wednesday to make the fight...And right after the fight he said one guy is preventing the fight? Huh? How does that even make any sense?

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                #37
                Originally posted by MulaKO
                First off , the Bobfather is as old as fugh
                Probably losing his fughin mind lol
                But again him coming out and saying what he said tonight , imo , would be to get the ball rolling
                Might not be the right way but it’s a start
                And if that was his master plan all along, then great! I would love that..But we both know that is unlikely lol.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  Like I said he is winning that battle. We want to see Crawford against the other guys, so far Arum’s side seems like the ones wanting those fights. So whether he is lying or not people are going to go with his side, oppose to the other side that has been silent or saying “He is on the other side of the street”

                  My thing is this, when you have someone on camera talking about wanting the fight, and the person has actually done something in boxing and he is bringing something to the table then I would believe he wants that fight.

                  Let Spence and Porter fight next, I have no issue with that fight, but it should be strap season for those belts at 147, get all of them belts together.
                  No doubt he is winning the battle to some...And my point he is he is more interested in winning the PR battle more than anything. Everything he said post-fight went against what he said the week of the fight.

                  Spence/Porter, Thurman/Pacquiao....And if I'm Arum, while calling Haymon to get the Spence fight rolling, in the mean time he discusses trying to get Danny Garcia for Crawford next. That would be great. Both guys fought today and are on the same schedule. Garcia isn't getting any other top PBC fighter unless he wants to take on a risky Ugas. Give Garcia 6M+ for the fight and make it happen. If Garcia wants even more, may just have to take a loss and give him around 8 or so million for the fight.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by KTFOKING
                    And if that was his master plan all along, then great! I would love that..But we both know that is unlikely lol.
                    Not after tonight’s shtick
                    Haymon will have to reply
                    This fight will get made by preassure
                    Imo the fight will get made and will be a huge success bringing along Tank vs Loma

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                      #40
                      Bob Arum is a sleazy horrible fight stopping mobster, thats all he is. But this mobster has been talking about trying to make Bud v Spence straight after he beats Khan, can we believe him? No. But then ive noticed the "other side of the street", on this occasion Leonard Ellerbe, reacting with a video claiming nobody at PBC is interested in making a fight with Spence right now. Something about Spence being at the back of the queue.

                      Like i said, do i trust Bob? No, but when you got 1 side making statements that they have no interest in fighting Crawford any time soon and it sounds like it dont matter if i trust Bob or not.

                      But then it could just be more lying all round. It seems to be the current way of doing, or rather not doing business in America right now. Its just a race to see who can get a statement out dismissing the other side 1st or just lying or something. These guys are doing nothing to make good fights over in America they just send out statements saying they want the fights its "the other side" that doesnt.

                      I mean who really believes anybody at the PBC wants Wilder v Joshua?????? They tell you that they do, they tell you its Hearn and Joshua that dont want it but what have they done to make it? That 50 Mill offer where they refused to send the contract? Other than that they have turned down about 7 or 8 offers to face Joshua, make a shed load of excuses but STILL make statements about they want the fight, they are trying to make the fight and its the other side Hearn and Joshua that are stalling and dont want the fight.

                      Its what they do, but then its also what Bob does.
                      Last edited by DaNeutral.; 04-21-2019, 12:52 AM.

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