HGH and Endurubol, 45 days away in camp, minimum 4 year ban?

[M Bison]

I hope it's only like a one year ban

Could be longer, how long would all the stuff he has took remain dormant in his system? I really have no idea, we knew with Povetkin it remained in his body long after he stopped taking it and he was using something considerably less effective.

[Mammoth]

Could be longer, how long would all the stuff he has took remain dormant in his system? I really have no idea, we knew with Povetkin it remained in his body long after he stopped taking it and he was using something considerably less effective.

They're all doing it though. Miller just needs better masking agents like the rest of them.

[dan_cov]

None of it makes much sense to me. Like if you were going to juice surely you'd microdose or use a substance that they didn't detect for I/E these OTC pro hormones or something that was out of the system rapidly.

That's a heavy advanced stack this is not just your typical easy to access in any gym steroid. What I am saying is I refuse to believe anybody could be this ****** especially after previously failing a drug test.

My only thought is he's done it to get out of the fight but that would be even more ******.

It just doesn't add up.

[Holler]

The Dinu and Adamek fights Hearn was getting **** for how long it was taking for announcement for who Miller was facing. Dude was delaying the fights so no testing could happen

I saw this post earlier today on another forum, it was posted in a different context, asking whether 6 weeks was sufficient time for a HW to prepare for a bout.

As an example they looked at Wilder's fights:

Wilder when facing Molina in his first defence, I read the fight was announced on "This Thursday on May 14th a news conference is scheduled for the announcement of the June 13th" Which is just over 4 weeks


Wilder when facing Duhaupas, I read from an article dated Aug 18th 2015 "
As I previously announced earlier, WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder’s next fight against the highly skilled #12 WBC Johann Duhaupas (32-2, 20 KOs) is expected to be announced any day now, and it might be before the end of this week.

Wilder and the 6’5” Duhaupas will be fighting on September 26th on Premier Boxing Champions on NBC from the Legacy Arena in Birmingham, Alabama." Which from 18th of Aug to 26th of Sept is just under 6 weeks


Wilder when facing Szpilka I read "
Heavyweight titleholder Deontay Wilder voiced concern Saturday that just six weeks before his next title defense, he still does not have an opponent. That changed Tuesday, when he got one in Polish contender Artur Szpilka.

Wilder will make the third defense of his belt when he faces Szpilka on Jan. 16 in a Showtime-televised main event at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York." That article was Dec 9th and the fight was on 16th which is under 6 weeks


Wilder when facing Arreola, I read an article dated June 13 2016 which read "The WBC heavyweight champ will face off against faded puncher Chris Arreola on July 16 in primetime on FOX, it was announced Monday. The Legacy Arena at BJCC in Birmingham, Alabama, will host the tilt, Wilder's third defense in his home state" Which is just under 5 weeks

Wilder when facing Washington, I read on an article from the 30th of Jan "Gerald Washington, a former football player at USC, will tackle the assignment of facing heavyweight titleholder Deontay Wilder on Feb. 25 on Fox, it was announced on Monday" Which would have been in 2017 and just under 4 weeks


Wilder when defending against Stiverne, I read on an article dated 5th of Oct 2017 "WBC Heavyweight World Champion Deontay Wilder will defend his title against mandatory challenger Bermane Stiverne on Saturday, Nov. 4" which is under 5 weeks


Wilder when defending against Ortiz, I read an article dated 12th Jan 2018 "WBC world heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder will defend his title against Luis Ortiz on Saturday, 3 March at the Barclays Center in New York.

November's original fight was postponed after Ortiz failed a drug test." which is around 7 weeks

[Thuglife Nelo]

I agree with consistency being key that’s why you take out the context. Warn everyone now, if you’ve popped dirty already next time is two year suspension (grandfathered in). Anyone else first offense one year suspension second offense, life.

This is what I’m saying about consistency and fans not knowing what da fool they’re talking about.

365 or everyone stfu.

[Bjl12]

Wish the rules were as harsh on their money queens, but we all know they will make an example of one lesser guy when they could have done it to Canelo.

What should have been done to Canelo? He didnt pop for steroids, HGH, EPO, the clear, etc.

He popped for Clenbuterol - which is literally used in the meat in Mexico. An under-17 FIFA tournament - featuring teams from the WORLD - had like 50% of kids test (+) specifically for Clenbuterol.

Several Mexican boxers have - specifically - popped for Clenbuterol.

Again if there was NO evidence suggesting otherwise I would agree, but Canelo has a very real excuse...the dude might not have juiced at all.

Enrolled in WBC365
Took hair follicle sample at request of NSAC

Never tested (+) before or after for ANYTHING including Clen...by the way...Canelo had NEVER been tested in Mexico before and that original GGG rematch was the first time he popped (+)....do you need me to hold your hand and draw a line for you????

[PRINCEKOOL]

Well if he has now been tested for 3 performance enhancing drugs this is a little more serious than some of the other failed test we have seen which? to be fair, have been at times things that you may find in body building supplements. EPO, Hormone Growth Hormone and then endurable 'This is heavy'.

When Dwain Chambers was caught up in the balco scandal he was banned for 2 years, but even after he returned to competition he was banned from various grand Prix meetings. 'He was on a batch of 6/7 performance enhancing drugs at one time' he did comeback and achieve some decent results during his comeback though.

Miller has really messed things up here, and I think his team need to be investigated.

I will go as far in saying that this is the BIGGEST, drugs failing in sport in recent years by far 'Due to the share extent of what the man was taking' and in that case? You have to feel abit down for Miller, I think he has been badly advised and also morally wrong himself.

That is why his entire team need to be investigated.

[4truth]

2 years and if/when he comes back sign up and pay for year round VADA.