Comments Thread For: Freddie Roach Furious Over Jarrell Miller: We Need Bans For Life

[MisanthropicNY]

Wonder why Floyd Mayweather didn't get banned when he had 3 failed samples with USADA... Pacquiao's camp wanted them released during discovery.

[Bronx2245]

Didn't Floyd hire "Memo" Heredia who is an expert PED chemist who has a history of making elite undetectable PEDS

No, he hired Alex Ariza, after he left Manny Pacquiao! After Ariza left, Freddie took Pacquiao back to Justin Fortune! That's why I say both Manny and Floyd are suspect!

April 20, 2015:

Mayweather Sr. vs Ariza ”That son of a ***** ain’t strengthening nobody”

“Strengthening him?” Mayweather Sr. said. ”That son of a ***** ain’t strengthening nobody. He ain’t nobody. He’s in there, I can’t say exactly what he’s doing but he ain’t strength training little Floyd. What Floyd’s doing everybody’s helping; it’s not just one person.”

This isn’t the first time Ariza has not been at the best odds with the head trainer in a camp. We all know the recent history with Freddie Roach as the two were jointly given credit for the success of Manny Pacquiao moving up into the higher weight classes. The two had a falling out, and the divorce was quite bad with the two men nearly coming to blows in Macao when Ariza was helping Brandon Rios prepare for Manny Pacquiao.



Ariza then joined the Robert Garcia camp and was credited with helping Maidana get in shape for his wins over Adrien Broner and his performance in the 1st Mayweather fight. But much like Roach, Ariza had a falling out with Garcia.


Then he joined the Mayweather gym. However, Mayweather Sr. feels he really brings nothing to the table when it comes to boxing.

“He don’t know **** anyways; he don’t anything about no damn boxing, I do know that,” Mayweather Sr. said. “I know he doesn’t know anything about boxing and he don’t know what to tell anyone anyways. If he does know anything, it’s some dirty ****, and it’s something that nobody wants to use or hear about. Nobody is into that kind of mess.”

http://thaboxingvoice.com/mayweather...-nobody/44130/

[giant_king]

I don't know if big baby really tested positive it could be a frame job to avoid the fight for all we know but I always say if you want to eliminate doping in all sports you have to do a one strike u out rule.when they have opportunitys to come back suspension after suspension there going to risk it

[MastaBlasta]

Test the B sample. Let that man beat joshua then take his moms to dinner

Hahaha! Right, I agree. FIRST: make sure the B sample proves there is a problem (hopefully not).

If not, I had money on Big Baby upsetting Joshua. He's all in AJ's head .... and hearns. All you fan-girl hearniacs know it too.

[MastaBlasta]

And criminal charges also, a prison term will deter some fighters.

I don't support PEDS or anyone taking them. But most protein formulas at GNC and health stores have some banned substances in them. They are not ALL illegal, hence criminal charges not possible in plenty of cases.

For average people, who are not professional athletes, there are many PEDS that are quite legal in those formulas. That is part of the problem. Wilder is right about drinking water. It can be very easy to unwittingly ingest substances that will fail a test.

That said, I hope for Big Baby's sake that he isn't rolling the dice with any of these substances. THe one flagged in particular seems to be very dangerous to health.

[MastaBlasta]

When you get paid as much as some of these guys do it shouldn't be hard to track every damn substance going into your body.

Only because you haven't tried to do it. It's a lot harder than you think. You almost can't eat at restaurants, drink anything from anywhere, etc. Even lemonade can get you in trouble. Most food manufacturers include artificial sweetners, colors, and "natural" flavors ... that can be made of anything, and undisclosed on the label or labeled under various "made-up" names by the manufacturers. USDA allows all of this to supposedly protect trade secrets and such. Add in preservatives and it multiplies worse.

Even average people don't know all the substances you put in your body per food, because of this ... unless you go %100 organic & vegan. No meat producer discloses all the hormones, antibiotics, etc they raise the cattle with. It's a mess. Even labled "Organic" you never know for sure unless you raise/farm the products.

[Madison Boxing]

I don't know if big baby really tested positive it could be a frame job to avoid the fight for all we know but I always say if you want to eliminate doping in all sports you have to do a one strike u out rule.when they have opportunitys to come back suspension after suspension there going to risk it

Why on earth would they sign to fight miller just to frame him, is he really that formidable?

[Madison Boxing]

3 year ban first offence, lifetime for 2nd. Lifetime is too harsh if youve just been dumb and took the wrong supplement.

[MastaBlasta]

Why on earth would they sign to fight miller just to frame him, is he really that formidable?

hearn and AJ have been obviously shook and nervous about this fight. To answer your question, yes!

[MastaBlasta]

Hate to say it, but I really suspect they spiked something given to Big Baby while he was promoting the fight (probably in the UK). Team hearn wanted out of fighting Big Baby after the stage SHOVE and fierce confrontations. And the realizations that Miller was training harder and was not going to lie down or be bought off. hearn had been saying in interviews the last month how much more DANGEROUS the fight vs Miller was ... versus Fury and Wilder's next fights.


So, oops ... after passing a few months of (weekly?) tests, Miller suddenly has a cancerous PED that conveniently also burns fat first (everyone knows Miller is Beefy Big) in his sample.

Sorry folks, it's all too convenient ... sad though.

I wish they would disclose the supposed amounts of contamination.