Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder: Which side are you on?

[W1LL]

I think $20M, $40M for AJ, and a guarenteed rematch. That would have been the offer to do it, and a great offer. I have already said I think those numbers are probably overpaying Wilder. But then, AJ too will be earning much, much more than he ever has before. AJ needs Wilder in order to make the massive numbers, same as Wilder needs AJ. It isn't like AJ can make $75M+ fighting just anybody.

[kafkod]

A.) Wilder should just take the massive payday and fight AJ. His biggest previous payday is $4M versus Tyson Fury, so $20M, $40M and $40M for three fights is out of this world!

or

B.) $40M sounds great... until you consider the other guy will be making $100M+ per fight. $80M across two fights could end up being less than an 80/20 split! Wilder's earnings would be capped while AJ is the only one who would profit from any added interest in the rematch.

By refusing to negotiate any deal with Hearn and AJ, Wilder ruled out any possibility of getting a "split" of the total income from the fight, which would be coming from multiple sources, not just DAZN.

What Hearn said about Wilder's offer made sense to me: There was no "pot" to split. DAZN made an offer to Wilder, and Wilder alone, based on what Skipper thought he was worth to DAZN.

AJ's money, which would come partly from DAZN and partly from Matchroom/Sky, should not have been any concern of Wilder's - because he specifically said that he would not be part of any deal involving Eddie Hearn and Matchroom.

[Jax teller]

There's a lot of IF's in there. What if Wilder wins a super brawl by late KO, and becomes the Unified champion? Or it goes to the scorecards and has a disputed decision? Then the second fight would be massive, and Wilder would be making $40M whilst AJ would make over 100% increase on what he'd make in the first fight?

We're in the business of talking about 'if's' so to speak, you're angle is based on IF the first fight makes 100 mil or more which would appear to be a bigger 'if' as current PPV records do not quite point that direction. That said 40 mil for the second fight may well be underdoing it if they 100% expected to win the first, it would probably be considered the safe option.

As I understood it DAZN were open to negotiation, the offers weren't take it or leave it but Wilder & Co simply said they'd think about the offers and later declined.

If it's gonna be on PPV the offer is most likely gonna have to come from Wilder/Showtime which they haven't shown intention of backing up their valuation, yet.

[Rip Chudd]

I'm on boxing's side. Couldn't care less about the back and forth between fanboys. This fight needs to happen

[W1LL]

We're in the business of talking about 'if's' so to speak, you're angle is based on IF the first fight makes 100 mil or more which would appear to be a bigger 'if' as current PPV records do not quite point that direction. That said 40 mil for the second fight may well be underdoing it if they 100% expected to win the first, it would probably be considered the safe option.

As I understood it DAZN were open to negotiation, the offers weren't take it or leave it but Wilder & Co simply said they'd think about the offers and later declined.

If it's gonna be on PPV the offer is most likely gonna have to come from Wilder/Showtime which they haven't shown intention of backing up their valuation, yet.

Hmm, I'm not sure if the "Wilder just wouldn't entertain ANY offer" is actually true, or just Eddie Hearn's spin on things. It seems like Wilder's side do have their own ideas and they will no longer entertain anything less than what they believe to be the value of the fight.

[W1LL]

I'm on boxing's side. Couldn't care less about the back and forth between fanboys. This fight needs to happen

You're right, that is all that matters in the end when they finally step into the ring. But this is a Boxing forum, and I enjoy waffling nonsense on here and trying to get my head around different opinions.

[Rip Chudd]

You're right, that is all that matters in the end when they finally step into the ring. But this is a Boxing forum, and I enjoy waffling nonsense on here and trying to get my head around different opinions.

Yeah I understand bro, not knocking the conversation at all. Just stating how I feel

[Jedi Vader]

I'm in a no lose situation because I detest Joshua with a passion and so if he lost to Wilder, I'd find it amusing. However and mainly for the sake of English boxing, preferably I'd want him to win.

Now Fury I'd like to clown the pair of them.

[Froch_uppercut]

Well, only a few months ago the arguement wasn't about the figures, but the split. Parker got 65/35, Fury was offered 60/40 etc. So how can you be in favour of Wilder taking a deal that could equate to less than 85/15 across two fights?

Say for example the first fight is a split of $40M Wilder and $75M AJ. That looks and sounds great. But what if the first fight is a thriller and in the rematch the split is $40M Wilder and $200M AJ?

It's ridiculous, this is not even a debate. There are disparities in purse sizes between the two combatants in almost every fight.
Wilder should have taken it. Hopefully he gets ktfo by Breazeale and we can all laugh at his delusional ass.

[DaNeutral.]

Wilder is right to be a ducker. His fans on here are pointing out that wilder missing out on a potential 6 hundred trillion dollars that's all going to Anthony Joshua even though they also claim the contract wasn't even for Joshua it was just a lie they were actually tricking wilder in to facing batman and Charles manson.