Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder: Which side are you on?

[W1LL]

A.) Wilder should just take the massive payday and fight AJ. His biggest previous payday is $4M versus Tyson Fury, so $20M, $40M and $40M for three fights is out of this world!

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B.) $40M sounds great... until you consider the other guy will be making $100M+ per fight. $80M across two fights could end up being less than an 80/20 split! Wilder's earnings would be capped while AJ is the only one who would profit from any added interest in the rematch.

[Kezzer]

Being offered $100m or $120m for 3/4 fights including 1/2 warm up fights is impossible to argue when realistically there is only a couple of other alternatives Wilder can even make much north of $5m on.

Even assuming just one fight at $40m this is EIGHT times his biggest payday. And he is guaranteed four fights of these sort of deals even if he loses.

Not really sure how this is a debate?

[W1LL]

Being offered $100m or $120m for 3/4 fights including 1/2 warm up fights is impossible to argue when realistically there is only a couple of other alternatives Wilder can even make much north of $5m on.

Even assuming just one fight at $40m this is EIGHT times his biggest payday. And he is guaranteed four fights of these sort of deals even if he loses.

Not really sure how this is a debate?

Well, only a few months ago the arguement wasn't about the figures, but the split. Parker got 65/35, Fury was offered 60/40 etc. So how can you be in favour of Wilder taking a deal that could equate to less than 85/15 across two fights?

Say for example the first fight is a split of $40M Wilder and $75M AJ. That looks and sounds great. But what if the first fight is a thriller and in the rematch the split is $40M Wilder and $200M AJ?

[W1LL]

Well, only a few months ago the arguement wasn't about the figures, but the split. Parker got 65/35, Fury was offered 60/40 etc. So how can you be in favour of Wilder taking a deal that could equate to less than 85/15 across two fights?

Say for example the first fight is a split of $40M Wilder and $75M AJ. That looks and sounds great. But what if the first fight is a thriller and in the rematch the split is $40M Wilder and $200M AJ?

My maths wasn't working this early in the day. $80M over two fights, with the potential total purse being $355M+ would be at most a 78/22 split, not 85/15. But still... from a split point of view I can understand Team Wilder's arguement.

[Jax teller]

My maths wasn't working this early in the day. $80M over two fights, with the potential total purse being $355M+ would be at most a 78/22 split, not 85/15. But still... from a split point of view I can understand Team Wilder's arguement.

Why don't you just round it up to a billion if you're throwing random numbers out there, all you have to do look at AJ and Wilders last American PPV figures to know it'll be lucky to get 100 mil per fight.

[W1LL]

Why don't you just round it up to a billion if you're throwing random numbers out there, all you have to do look at AJ and Wilders last American PPV figures to know it'll be lucky to get 100 mil per fight.

You accept that offering Wilder $40M is at best a 60/40 split projection for what the first fight is estimated to make, right? And you think the second fight will do exactly the same numbers to the first fight, or better? Wilder would be locking himself out of any profit from the growth of a second fight. That is a dumb move.

[Thuglife Nelo]

I wouldve chosen Joshua / DAZN, not Joshua / Hearn.

The Hearn bit seems boosting for UK accomplishment for managing a fighter rather than focusing solely on the fighter. Seems like race baiting

[Jax teller]

You accept that offering Wilder $40M is at best a 60/40 split projection for what the first fight is estimated to make, right? And you think the second fight will do exactly the same numbers to the first fight, or better? Wilder would be locking himself out of any profit from the growth of a second fight. That is a dumb move.

Depends on if its a good fight (Wilder doesn't get wiped out in first round) and if Wilder wins or loses (majority of American fans will unlikely want to watch him fight if he loses the first unless its in spectacular fashion) plus like I said I think they'd be lucky if the got 100 mil for the first fight if it's on PPV, look at how Wilder v Fury PPV did the second biggest match up in the division. It's clear AJ is bringing most of the extras so Wilder should be grateful that he even got offered over 30%, other more established Champs like Lennox have taken less than the 40% offered in undisputed bouts.

[W1LL]

Depends on if its a good fight (Wilder doesn't get wiped out in first round) and if Wilder wins or loses (majority of American fans will unlikely want to watch him fight if he loses the first unless its in spectacular fashion) plus like I said I think they'd be lucky if the got 100 mil for the first fight if it's on PPV, look at how Wilder v Fury PPV did the second biggest match up in the division. It's clear AJ is bringing most of the extras so Wilder should be grateful that he even got offered over 30%, other more established Champs like Lennox have taken less than the 40% offered in undisputed bouts.

There's a lot of IF's in there. What if Wilder wins a super brawl by late KO, and becomes the Unified champion? Or it goes to the scorecards and has a disputed decision? Then the second fight would be massive, and Wilder would be making $40M whilst AJ would make over 100% increase on what he'd make in the first fight?

[deathofaclown]

DAZN isn't PPV though, so there's nothing to split per se. They just pay the fighters a purse, regardless of the viewers. But if they want to make the fight, it seems they're going to have to pay Wilder the same as AJ.

I think Wilder was right to turn it down because i think DAZN might come back with a better offer to get the fight done, Hearn has already said they will go back after their next fights with another offer, so it isn't going to be the same offer. Obviously the purse has to stop somewhere though before it doesn't make sense anymore, but i think he can definitely get more money.