Comments Thread For: The Master of Efficiency, The Lomachenko Way

[skinnystev]

they are all 100 to 1 no hoppers vs nomaschenko who can beat him

[Slicc]

Let him beat Lopez and Davis and his hype will be justified. Going the Commey or the weak ass belt way, is not the way a real champ would go.

What weak ass belt are you talking about? It sure as hell ain't the WBC belt, because Mikey's done more in boxing than Davis and Lopez combined so far. It ain't the IBF either, because unlike Lopez, Commey actually fought decent competition. Are you really insinuating that a weight bullying paper champ and an unproven prospect are better than the legitimate champions Loma has available? You've gotta be trolling.

Davis would rather hold his undeserved belt hostage than fight Loma, and Lopez should stop running his mouth like he's fought something other than a tomato can. As for Loma, his best options at 135 seem to be Mikey, Commey and Campbell. Beating Davis would help his career, but he has nothing to gain off of beating Lopez.

[kushking]

Is English a first language for this Tris Diсkson? Because it certainly looks like he is mexican worker somehow found near a type-machine.

bwaaahaaa

[angkag]

they are all 100 to 1 no hoppers vs nomaschenko who can beat him

Of all styles, I felt if Linares was at his best, he would be the only one to be able hold his ground against Loma. Linares did show up at his best, and he did hold his ground, but he couldn't keep it up for 12, and I credit Loma for that. At the end, Linares was too mentally exhausted to continue and had nothing left - the part of his brain that governs survival started to shut his body down.

Lets not forget just how good the Linares fight was, he hit Loma with a 3 punch combination at one point - even Loma showed cracks keeping up with the pace he was setting.

Linares couldn't do it again though - pschologically he would be going into a situation where he knows he is incapable of going 12, and he would shut down mentally much sooner.

Mentally, opponents train to go 12 rounds at 800m pace, and Loma takes it to 100m pace early on, then its attrition.

[hugh grant]

He's 30 already so very soon his hands will hurt and he won't be getting any kos. As good as lomo is he will have come and gone. At his peak he's as good as Pac and Floyd. But they were around longer

[Bruce Neeka]

What weak ass belt are you talking about? It sure as hell ain't the WBC belt, because Mikey's done more in boxing than Davis and Lopez combined so far. It ain't the IBF either, because unlike Lopez, Commey actually fought decent competition. Are you really insinuating that a weight bullying paper champ and an unproven prospect are better than the legitimate champions Loma has available? You've gotta be trolling.

Davis would rather hold his undeserved belt hostage than fight Loma, and Lopez should stop running his mouth like he's fought something other than a tomato can. As for Loma, his best options at 135 seem to be Mikey, Commey and Campbell. Beating Davis would help his career, but he has nothing to gain off of beating Lopez.

very well put!
1. Tank is not ready yet as per TMT if I remember correctly.

2. Teo is acting strangely giving Loma ultimatums of only being available to him this year and then he will move 140lbs. plus he says he doesn't need Loma to proof himself, but Loma needs him. He was in front raws on Loma-Crolla but said he didn't watch the fight )))). mayb he is a good fighter but his words and his father words sound so strange and out of reality

[chubuk7]

Maybe I should go back and read it again but all I got from my first read was hype.
BTW Loma is my favourite fighter so I'm not trying to troll nothing either.

Yes, you should go back and read it again. Also you should feel lucky to live in such beautiful time to see and admire such a great boxer. Loma best ever!

[kushking]

You asked me this on another thread but im answering you here instead

So if you had to list who is your p4p no.1 atm?

Isn't it obvious?

my p4p (based mostly on quality of resume in relation to natural weightclass/skillset as thats mostly all that I bother counting)

#1 Canelo

#2 Fury

#3 Usyk/Callum

#4 Spence

#5mikey
#6 Loma
#7Crawford
#8 Jacobs/Hurd
#9 AJ/Wilder
#10 ggg
Its very hard for me to decide what exactly the order is as you can see which is why I say p4p top 10 doesn't mean much. But I do think Canelo has done enough already to be considered p4p#1 off resume alone. I know ill get a ton of hate 4 this p4p but I only rate loma/Crawford etc so low because they need an opponent that is on their level like spence/garcia whom will be their version of ggg vs canelo(supreme legacy fight). But thats why I rate others above them purely because they've fought truly equal quality opponents to themselves. It takes a great opponent to make great fighters truly great. Top rank fighters mostly all lack that.

It pains me to put certain fighters so high like fury because he blatantly ducked,but his fights vs klit/wilder are better resume than 90% of boxers. Its hard to rate ggg altogether because he seems intent on bumhunting rather than redeem himself but I will reserve judgement a bit til he announces next foe.

[BLASTER1]

You asked me this on another thread but im answering you here instead



Isn't it obvious?

my p4p (based mostly on quality of resume in relation to natural weightclass/skillset as thats mostly all that I bother counting)

#1 Canelo

#2 Fury

#3 Usyk/Callum

#4 Spence

#5mikey
#6 Loma
#7Crawford
#8 Jacobs/Hurd
#9 AJ/Wilder
#10 ggg
Its very hard for me to decide what exactly the order is as you can see which is why I say p4p top 10 doesn't mean much. But I do think Canelo has done enough already to be considered p4p#1 off resume alone. I know ill get a ton of hate 4 this p4p but I only rate loma/Crawford etc so low because they need an opponent that is on their level like spence/garcia whom will be their version of ggg vs canelo(supreme legacy fight). But thats why I rate others above them purely because they've fought truly equal quality opponents to themselves. It takes a great opponent to make great fighters truly great. Top rank fighters mostly all lack that.

It pains me to put certain fighters so high like fury because he blatantly ducked,but his fights vs klit/wilder are better resume than 90% of boxers. Its hard to rate ggg altogether because he seems intent on bumhunting rather than redeem himself but I will reserve judgement a bit til he announces next foe.

You have a flaw in your rating system.
For example if you have Nelo as no.1 you have to have GGG not far of considering in 24 rounds only a few points separate them.
As for having Mikey in your top 10 ahead of Bud I just can't take that seriously.
I guess that's why it's not a legit rating system because it's biased to individuals favourites.

[chubuk7]

Loma just fought Crolla, a 100-1 mismatch, a real no hoper. Let's live in reality.

Let him beat Lopez and Davis and his hype will be justified. Going the Commey or the weak ass belt way, is not the way a real champ would go.

Loma can beat these fighters simultaneously, any variable:
1. Loma vs. Tank and Lopez
2. Loma vs. Tank and Floyd
3. Loma vs. Lopez and Floyd