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  • boliodogs
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    #21
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    its a twofold risk for bob right now....either way the fight turns out....it could even be lopez beating loma

    bob gains a star...but lomas star shines less bright...loma is one of the main faces of the espn boxing program

    bob wants to keep them away..let loma shine...and let lopez build and grow....I just cant see this fight happening no matter how much lopez talks it up....bob can have loma as a face of his company for the next few years and build lopez into that next guy at the same time

    as sad as it is...someone losing that fight would be a loss for that company even though it shouldn't work that way...if loma lost it would be his 2nd one...and if lopez lost theyd say hes probably good but not great/elite.....

    its hard to stay relevant in boxing with losses unless you act like broner
    Lopez has done nothing to show he is in Loma's class. Who has Lopez ever defeated? Nobody even in boxrec's top 30. Loma beats good champions so badly they quit in the corner. He would slaughter Lopez in my opinion. I see no reason to think otherwise.

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    • Curt Henning
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      #22
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      Lopez has done nothing to show he is in Loma's class. Who has Lopez ever defeated? Nobody even in boxrec's top 30. Loma beats good champions so badly they quit in the corner. He would slaughter Lopez in my opinion. I see no reason to think otherwise.
      he very well might slaughter lopez at this point....and id def favor loma.....but thats not really the point

      the point is people are getting bored with lomas opponent choices...people would like to see loma/lopez and that would ****e things up.......thats something loma is going to need at some point...the crollas and the rest of these guys arent intriguing

      still...i cant see bob making it regardless

      let me ask you though...when loma turned pro and started fighting known fighters so fast...people were like "wow man look at this guy he just turned pro...hes not going the easy route and hes fighting for a title already in his 2nd fight" giving loma all kinds of props

      but when a 21 year old prospect thats been being featured on top rank shows and is exciting and beating guys down...decides he wants to fight a a top 3 p4p fighter thats in his class and same promo company....people like you are quick to s hoot him down?

      whats the difference?

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      • Curt Henning
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        #23
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        So what we have with Top Rank boxing is a world where we don't get the interesting fights we'd like to see because they rarely work with outside promoters.

        And when there is an intriguing in-house matchup that could easily be made we don't get that either. Because they prefer to have two stars instead of one.

        It's just a game of artificially inflating public interest instead of having the best test themselves against the best.
        oh i definitley agree no question

        whats funny though its it creates such a mess for the al haymon haters/loma superfans(i like loma but his fanbois are gonna quickly take up where golovkins left off)

        these guys hate on al haymon and say his guys wont fight each other....yet hes been making good WW fights for some time now with his guys and will likely continue as he has some good matchups still left

        meanwhile bob will not let lopez/loma happen....and lomas fans and the TR fanbois(who really just hate haymon) will excuse it

        but these guys quickly forget how quick they were to blow loma for coming out of the gate fighting name guys we knew and fighting for a title in his 2nd pro fight....everyone was giving him crazy props for that

        yet now you have a 21 year old thats been featured on TR shows and is exciting....and people want to see fight loma and theyre excusing it already "who has lopez beateen to prove anything" they say ....whats the difference? who did loma beat to earn a title shot? no one.....so let lopez call out loma...and be mad if bob doesnt make a fight the public definitley wants

        but they wont...theyll excuse it and yell at haymon for something theyve made up in their heads

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        • HarvardBlue
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          #24
          It's been said before but he's more technical than Roy. One thing I was looking for last night is if he pulled straight back to avoid shots. He does not. That's one thing Roy was notorious for doing but his athleticism let him get away with it.

          I also noticed he does a lot of extra movement to appear more flashy. It worked last night but against a boxer like Tank he could go to sleep if he gets caught messing around.

          My guess once he starts slowing down he'll be able to adjust his style to accommodate his regressions.

          Lomachenko is too gifted not to be able to make the transition as an older fighter.

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            #25
            Originally posted by HarvardBlue
            It's been said before but he's more technical than Roy. One thing I was looking for last night is if he pulled straight back to avoid shots. He does not. That's one thing Roy was notorious for doing but his athleticism let him get away with it.

            I also noticed he does a lot of extra movement to appear more flashy. It worked last night but against a boxer like Tank he could go to sleep if he gets caught messing around.

            My guess once he starts slowing down he'll be able to adjust his style to accommodate his regressions.

            Lomachenko is too gifted not to be able to make the transition as an older fighter.
            stop overrating tank and his power. we saw last night how devastating loma looked against a lower class opponent and thats all tank has fought just like lopez. its easy to look good against them. what happens when they fight someone good? you think they are just gonna crumble like every other opponent they fight? usually doesnt work that way for anyone. hagler, ggg, wilder, etc...

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              #26
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              It would benefit the development of Lopez as a fighter to get in with Lomachenko now, win or lose.

              If he wins his confidence shoots through the roof. If he loses then his boxing IQ gets a free lesson and an upgrade at a very young age.

              Look how good Canelo got after losing to Floyd.

              If the kid wants it then the promoter shouldn't get in the way.
              The bold: I see your point. But, in pro boxing, I don't know if Lopez would learn anything from him. Floyd was a true pro boxer, Loma still looks amateurish to me.

              Anyway, I'd love to see this fight.

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                #27
                Originally posted by daggum
                stop overrating tank and his power. we saw last night how devastating loma looked against a lower class opponent and thats all tank has fought just like lopez. its easy to look good against them. what happens when they fight someone good? you think they are just gonna crumble like every other opponent they fight? usually doesnt work that way for anyone. hagler, ggg, wilder, etc...
                So, we gonna ignore Pedraza, who got his heart and zero taken away by Davis, and who was left face first splattered on the canvas? This same featerfisted Pedraza turned Loma's face into the elephant man. Think before you talk.

                Loma will feel the first Davis landed punch and run.

                I didn't see anything special against the can he crushed last night.
                Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 04-13-2019, 11:36 AM.

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                • Smash
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                  #28
                  hes exciting to watch so lets enjoy that while hes around, i dont see how u dislike him really, unless u dont like east euros ^^

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                  • chirorickyp
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by mike1010011
                    Off topic,but how would you have seen a floyd-lara fight going?
                    Great question. Unfair fight with two typical fighters because we have a 140 vs a 154. With unequal size at 154 a boring snooze fest with Floyd getting a decison. If equal size and they truly were in the same weight class Floyd KO's him. People forget that Floyd is Junior Welterweight, Welterweight at most. He would lose to a Hearns badly, due to size great jab and power and would lose to Leonard because he finishes opponents when he hurts them.

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                    • HarvardBlue
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      stop overrating tank and his power. we saw last night how devastating loma looked against a lower class opponent and thats all tank has fought just like lopez. its easy to look good against them. what happens when they fight someone good? you think they are just gonna crumble like every other opponent they fight?usually doesnt work that way for anyone. hagler, ggg, wilder, etc...
                      Only a certain set of fans believe the bold.

                      I believe Tank has the power to hurt Lomachenko if he catches him.

                      However, we won't see it anytime soon 'cause Tank's team have other plans for him and I'm sure they're some other 100-1 odds victims lined up for Lomachenko.

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