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  • bballchump11
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    #131
    Originally posted by Deus
    There is no 'US version'. DAZN is a single entity and thus profits and losses are shared across every single one of it's regions as it is with any multinational corporation.

    It's undoubted that 'DAZN USA' as it's liked to be called here is losing money at this stage, but that is going to be offset by the profits DAZN are making in other nations/regions.

    Thus them selling off other assets is nothing more than an attempt to expand. Likelihood is they're raising additional capital in order to help acquire the big sports in the US to try and make more of a splash there.
    That's not how it works. After a few years, the executives are going to look at what content, regions and departments are making them money and what's not. If they realize that their return on investment in America isn't panning out, they will cut it. It doesn't matter what Spain, Italy or Canada is doing. They will not keep throwing money at a failed project.

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    • SchoolTheseCats
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      #132
      Originally posted by bigdunny1
      DAZN this morning just outbid Canada's ESPN to get the rights to Premier League.



      DAZN has also been linked to be one of the favorites to land NFL when they opt out their Sunday Ticket deal with Directv later this year. The only reason DAZN hasn't already bid on the other major sports is NOT because they don't have the money or because they don't want to. It's because the other US sports are all in the middle of binding contracts with networks. They overpaid for Boxing because it was the only sport available and to get their foot in the door in US while they bide time and wait for the other major sports to become free agents. They already have NFL, NBA, major soccer rights in other countries on DAZN. Boxing is not the end game for their sports content in US, and US is not the end game for DAZN. They are already successful in other countries. US makes up a small piece of their global brand and they have proven if content is available they can bid huge amounts to get it from traditional networks in other countries.

      Success long term in the US will have NOTHING to do with boxing. You could have all the boxers in the world all under DAZN and still it will make up only a small fraction of the sports audience in the US. Success in the US will be determined in years to come if they can get those top US sports rights. That's why people trying to say this boxing investment will break DAZN is laughable. It's a drop in the bucket to the money they have already invested in other sports. And US is just a tiny factor Globally.
      No major sports in United States will sign onto dazn they just don’t have enough eyeballs to pay billions of dollars a year to broadcast games.... NFL,NBA,MLB,NHL is will not take discounts to be put on a platform that hasn’t shown any success in states yet, soccer... Don’t nobody care about soccer in United States

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      • Motorcity Cobra
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        #133
        Originally posted by bigdunny1
        Have you paid Robbie Barret? You know because you were wrong! the entire premise for you saying they are hemorrhaging money is WRONG. They put Perform on the sale block back in last year before they launched DAZN in the US but you didn't know that before you posted your nonsense. You lied about what the article you posted was saying and now trying to deflect because it blew up in your face with Boxingscene hijaking and renaming your own thread title and the company you said is hemorrhaging not even 1 day later won a major sports right bid. How is this possible they out of money according to you. LMAO

        Keep trolling bro
        More long winded paragraphs of you being wrong. Always wrong yet always typing the most. Zero self awareness and that's why you're always wrong

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        • bigdunny1
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          #134
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
          More long winded paragraphs of you being wrong. Always wrong yet always typing the most. Zero self awareness and that's why you're always wrong
          Read the title of your own thread you started...Boxingscene even told you you are wrong and changed your own thread because you lied about what the article was saying. pay robbie barrett

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          • Motorcity Cobra
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            #135
            Originally posted by bigdunny1
            Read the title of your own thread you started...Boxingscene even told you you are wrong and changed your own thread because you lied about what the article was saying. pay robbie barrett
            More wrong again. Everytime someone writes a topic & boxingscene merges the topic the title is changed to their title. You're always wrong.

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            • bigdunny1
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              #136
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
              More wrong again. Everytime someone writes a topic & boxingscene merges the topic the title is changed to their title. You're always wrong.
              Exactly and when boxingscene did that they accurately portrayed the article you lied about. No where in the article did it say DAZN was hemorrhaging money. And your entire premise has been debunked since Forbes and others reported DAZN was going to sell Perform BEFORE DAZN launched in the US. Have you paid Robbie Barett yet...because you know...you were wrong

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              • youbeight
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                #137
                Seems like they blew their wad too fast. Leveraging resources for dollars sometimes means they need to upkeep cost and and keep spending. That’s hardly a positive sign but we’ll see what ends up happening. Much like with GGG having equity options I can foresee them doing the same with other institution to keep some money in house to make them look attractive to more investors. Big problem is how those investors will get a return on their investment.

                As far as success in the US, they need more than boxing and bellator, they’ll need a major sport. Problem is those sports cost around 10x what Hearn budget was for fights and Disney money stretch farther than anything at this point so I don’t see this sports jumping ship.

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #138
                  Im no business expert but i dont understand how they are affording to offer these fighters ridiculous contracts. Surely there cant be that many subscribers either?

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                  • Deus
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by MC Hammer
                    If they are one entity then why don't they have the same content? They are gonna end up cutting off the dazn usa finger to save the entire dazn hand.

                    And based on you saying "there" for the US lets me know that you are not from or in the US so you can't even help them be successful at all.

                    dazn has not made a splash at all. And they will never get the big sports because they not competing with Disney
                    Because when you are licensing content there are restrictions on how that content can be used. It's all still paid from the one source, even if there are different branches.

                    And no i'm not from the US, though i'm not sure on the relevance of that. Equally I don't know if DAZN have or haven't made a splash; my comment was aimed directly at how funds are allocated across large multi-national corporations; of which I am talking from my own personal experience. I'm not trying to say DAZN is or isn't great because it doesn't affect me.

                    Originally posted by bballchump11
                    That's not how it works. After a few years, the executives are going to look at what content, regions and departments are making them money and what's not. If they realize that their return on investment in America isn't panning out, they will cut it. It doesn't matter what Spain, Italy or Canada is doing. They will not keep throwing money at a failed project.
                    That's exactly how it works. Equally though the vast majority of your post is correct.

                    If they find that their investment in America isn't panning out then yes they will cut it but every investment takes capital to begin with and they would not be expecting an immediate return on that investment; at that stage they would be propping up that arms failure to make money with the profit margins from other arms. So currently the fact that other aspects of DAZN are making money is very relevant because the longer the other markets are generating the more time they will afford to cracking the US market.

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                    • OnePunch
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Madison boxing
                      Im no business expert but i dont understand how they are affording to offer these fighters ridiculous contracts. Surely there cant be that many subscribers either?
                      when the boss is a multi-BILLIONAIRE, they can run it as a loss-leader for a year or 2 to see what happens......

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