Comments Thread For: Crawford: I See Myself at The Top Pound-For-Pound Fighter

[BillyBoxing]

you guys keep mentioning his 2nd pro fight and compare it to others records but ignore the fact that he was already 26 yrs old when he fought salido. This wasn't some some 19 yr old kid straight out of the Olympics daring to be great. This was a grown ass man who extended his amateur career to have an advantage over young kids. Crawford was 26 when he won his first world title, spence was 27 when he won his and Loma was 26. Not much of a difference there. Seperately, you want to give Loma credit for his amateur wins when making an argument for his pound for pound status but want to discredit his loss vs salido as a pro because it was his 2nd pro fight?? Yeah OK. That tells me all that I need to know about your logic and sense.

But you don't want to give any credit for his amateur wins but count his amateur experience as pro experience....so you're doing the same and in a negative way towards the fighter....


Amateur boxing experience counts imo never denied it, it is an advantage, but here you are the one talking bs and full of it because pro boxing are 12 rounders, and in no way you will be ready for that with just one pro fight, 26 or 36 years old, cut the crap bro

Loma lost, barely, he's 1-1, then go straight to beat Russell Jr who is no slouch. Dude is a G, not a haymon protected puppet.

Loma took risk and broke records, it paid off, what he's doing is unique and underappreciated, especially by haymon grumpiest.

Spence is only breaking the record of the most overrated fighter of all time with folks like putting him number 2 P4P because he beat a lightweight by UD...

[Alan Smithee]

Crawford needs to beat Khan and then either Thurman or Spence to claim the top spot. I am a big fan but his reume at the moment only keeps him solidly in the top 5 not #1.

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But you don't want to give any credit for his amateur wins but count his amateur experience as pro experience....so you're doing the same and in a negative way towards the fighter....


Amateur boxing experience counts imo never denied it, it is an advantage, but here you are the one talking bs and full of it because pro boxing are 12 rounders, and in no way you will be ready for that with just one pro fight, 26 or 36 years old, cut the crap bro

Loma lost, barely, he's 1-1, then go straight to beat Russell Jr who is no slouch. Dude is a G, not a haymon protected puppet.

Loma took risk and broke records, it paid off, what he's doing is unique and underappreciated, especially by haymon grumpiest.

Spence is only breaking the record of the most overrated fighter of all time with folks like putting him number 2 P4P because he beat a lightweight by UD...

now you're trying to mix up the argument because your logic was proven to be faulty. I didn't say amateur experience doesn't help your ability as a pro, obviously it does. However, it doesn't count when assessing if someone should be considered pound for pound as a pro. He started as a pro with hundreds of amateur fights experience and in his mid to late 20s. That's why he felt bold enough to try and fight for a title so soon. You using it as a reason to praise him over someone who was fighting as a pro while Loma was still an amateur and won a world title at around the same age isn't sensible. If you want to discredit spence wins over Brook and Garcia, fine. Then I can mention that Loma lost vs salido, or his best win is over an inactive Russell Jr who never fights consistently. I can mention how rigo was old, very inactive for 2 yrs before fighting Loma and 2 weight classes smaller as well. Or how Linares was always more style than substance and had already been ko'd by a c level fighter. Or how pedraza was thoroughly beaten and ko'd early already by tank yet made Loma uncomfortable all fight. See how easy that was.

[Shadoww702]

you guys keep mentioning his 2nd pro fight and compare it to others records but ignore the fact that he was already 26 yrs old when he fought salido. This wasn't some some 19 yr old kid straight out of the Olympics daring to be great. This was a grown ass man who extended his amateur career to have an advantage over young kids. Crawford was 26 when he won his first world title, spence was 27 when he won his and Loma was 26. Not much of a difference there. Seperately, you want to give Loma credit for his amateur wins when making an argument for his pound for pound status but want to discredit his loss vs salido as a pro because it was his 2nd pro fight?? Yeah OK. That tells me all that I need to know about your logic and sense.

1000% agree with u! Loma was a GROWN ass man in his PRIME who LOST to a fringe contender who was a HUGE underdog. End of story

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1000% agree with u! Loma was a GROWN ass man in his PRIME who LOST to a fringe contender who was a HUGE underdog. End of story

looks like we finally agree on something.

[BillyBoxing]

now you're trying to mix up the argument because your logic was proven to be faulty. I didn't say amateur experience doesn't help your ability as a pro, obviously it does. However, it doesn't count when assessing if someone should be considered pound for pound as a pro. He started as a pro with hundreds of amateur fights experience and in his mid to late 20s. That's why he felt bold enough to try and fight for a title so soon. You using it as a reason to praise him over someone who was fighting as a pro while Loma was still an amateur and won a world title at around the same age isn't sensible. If you want to discredit spence wins over Brook and Garcia, fine. Then I can mention that Loma lost vs salido, or his best win is over an inactive Russell Jr who never fights consistently. I can mention how rigo was old, very inactive for 2 yrs before fighting Loma and 2 weight classes smaller as well. Or how Linares was always more style than substance and had already been ko'd by a c level fighter. Or how pedraza was thoroughly beaten and ko'd early already by tank yet made Loma uncomfortable all fight. See how easy that was.

There are also the Walters and Martinez wins. Much more work for a Loma hater lol and in a dozen of fights...

Loma has a much better record than Spence, especially in 13 fights, salidoe or not. Or if you have to be undefeated to be top P4P then maybe we should rank Ryan Garcia over Loma too...

Rigo didn't go straight to a world title in his second pro fight despite XX ams fights, same for tank who had 200+ ams fights, same for Usyk, GGG or Lara.

Loma is a gun, tested his skills against bigger guys, it remains to be seen for Spence.

And if you think Spence is better than Loma eye test, then explain me what he's doing better as a southpaw I'm waiting, maybe your right but I just don't see it, yet I'm curious to have your opinion, you're not ****** at all.

The only thing where Spence impress me is his physicality for a WW, big, long, strong, freak stamina. He can fight tall. Sure Garcia was effed up, that dude isn't a natural lightweight to begin with...

But let's see how he does when he doesn't have that "physicality advantage" anymore over his opponents at 154 and 160.

Spence ain't no sweet pea doe.

[BillyBoxing]

1000% agree with u! Loma was a GROWN ass man in his PRIME who LOST to a fringe contender who was a HUGE underdog. End of story

In his prime in his second pro fight loool

Shadoww69 ladies and gentlemen

You're never afraid to tell enormous bullsht to rep your agenda isn't it? Or you didn't go to school and are completely dumb?

[Shadoww702]

In his prime in his second pro fight loool

Shadoww69 ladies and gentlemen

You're never afraid to tell enormous bullsht to rep your agenda isn't it? Or you didn't go to school and are completely dumb?

Man you have a SHT ton of EXCUSES??? 27 years old doe!

27 and LOST to a fringe contender.

[Shadoww702]

There are also the Walters and Martinez wins. Much more work for a Loma hater lol and in a dozen of fights...

Loma has a much better record than Spence, especially in 13 fights, salidoe or not. Or if you have to be undefeated to be top P4P then maybe we should rank Ryan Garcia over Loma too...

Rigo didn't go straight to a world title in his second pro fight despite XX ams fights, same for tank who had 200+ ams fights, same for Usyk, GGG or Lara.

Loma is a gun, tested his skills against bigger guys, it remains to be seen for Spence.

And if you think Spence is better than Loma eye test, then explain me what he's doing better as a southpaw I'm waiting, maybe your right but I just don't see it, yet I'm curious to have your opinion, you're not ****** at all.

The only thing where Spence impress me is his physicality for a WW, big, long, strong, freak stamina. He can fight tall. Sure Garcia was effed up, that dude isn't a natural lightweight to begin with...

But let's see how he does when he doesn't have that "physicality advantage" anymore over his opponents at 154 and 160.

Spence ain't no sweet pea doe.

He also got DROPPED by Linares who has like 3 1st roubd KO LOSES! Khan has even a better chin than Linares.

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There are also the Walters and Martinez wins. Much more work for a Loma hater lol and in a dozen of fights...

Loma has a much better record than Spence, especially in 13 fights, salidoe or not. Or if you have to be undefeated to be top P4P then maybe we should rank Ryan Garcia over Loma too...

Rigo didn't go straight to a world title in his second pro fight despite XX ams fights, same for tank who had 200+ ams fights, same for Usyk, GGG or Lara.

Loma is a gun, tested his skills against bigger guys, it remains to be seen for Spence.

And if you think Spence is better than Loma eye test, then explain me what he's doing better as a southpaw I'm waiting, maybe your right but I just don't see it, yet I'm curious to have your opinion, you're not ****** at all.

The only thing where Spence impress me is his physicality for a WW, big, long, strong, freak stamina. He can fight tall. Sure Garcia was effed up, that dude isn't a natural lightweight to begin with...

But let's see how he does when he doesn't have that "physicality advantage" anymore over his opponents at 154 and 160.

Spence ain't no sweet pea doe.

you know what, I'll leave it at this... Boxing is subjective. Everyone has their preferences when watching and what they're impressed with. Obviously I don't think loma is trash since I did rank him 3rd p4p. I just see spence as more impressive recently because Loma has shown some vulnerability over his past couple of fights while I've yet to see that with spence. Maybe that will change if he gets the opportunity to fight some of the better talent at 147, but as of now, that's where I stand. Lastly, I don't diminish the wins vs Brook and Garcia because I think the versions he fought were well prepared, motivated, and good enough to beat many top guys at 147.