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  • Lomasexual
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    #71
    Bud seems like a cool guy. He's got the self-belief that he needs to have to be as good as he is.

    I have him as #2, with Loma as #1. If people want to rank Bud as #1 in their personal lists I can respect that decision - even if I see it otherwise - I think their call is justifiable.

    IMHO resume is an important part of P4P. But it isn't everything. It isn't just about who a fighter has fought, it is also about how well he did in that fight. It is also about who that fighter hasn't fought.

    I don't think there is any need to accept corrupt decisions when making P4P rankings. Corrupt or simply incompetent judging causes massive financial loss to fighters, and elevates others unfairly. It is a sickness within the sport. If a fighter was robbed in the ring, it would be ****** to let this affect their P4P rankings.

    I don't support or accept corruption and don't consider those outcomes to be somehow magically valid. It is bad that they happen, and I think boxing fans need to call it as they see it.

    Canelo lost one fight to GGG and won one fight against him. So unless anyone had GGG as their #1, I don't see much of a case for having Canelo up there. He's within the top 10.

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    • alexnation
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      #72
      lol some peeps here.. Get off Spence's nuts already - the dude hasn't done anything to be even in top 7 let alone top 3. Crawford was an absolute in his class and now he is in up in WW to do the same. What has Spence done so far? Got 1 belt and fought a top lightweight? WOW that's another TBE material right there

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      • P4Pdunny
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        #73
        based on his performances and skill he has a case.

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        • Ray*
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          #74
          1. Loma, 2. Crawford, 3. Canelo.

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          • Ray*
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            #75
            Originally posted by alexnation
            lol some peeps here.. Get off Spence's nuts already - the dude hasn't done anything to be even in top 7 let alone top 3. Crawford was an absolute in his class and now he is in up in WW to do the same. What has Spence done so far? Got 1 belt and fought a top lightweight? WOW that's another TBE material right there
            No fucking way does he deserve to be top 3.

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            • bori84
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              #76
              Originally posted by Shadoww702
              You cant duck boxers in different weight classes. Mr.154-168 but ONLY 160.

              Ill admit Canelo ducked GGG if you admit GGG ducked Sergiy.


              Jacob called him out???? EVERYONE is calling Canelo out EINSTEIN. Hes the Golden Ticket.

              You got your excuses lined up for when Jacobs loses???
              GGG ducked Andre Ward and all of 168, absolutely agree there. Like I said, I'm not a fan of GGG and he would've been embarrassed had he fought Ward.
              Jacobs has been a top fighter for a while... Not sure if elite just yet but can't fight a nobody like Rocky Fielding and make it seem like you're only fighting top level opposition or doing it for the money. LOL
              No excuses if Jacobs loses. GGG ATM is still the best at 160, regardless of the crooked judges who gave it to Canelo (both the draw and the win). Don't have to be EINSTEIN to have seen that... LOL

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              • BillyBoxing
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                #77
                Originally posted by Shadoww702
                When did Spence lose to a Ubber Driver with double digit loses???? Garcia dropped a YOUNGER ubber like 5 times and WON every round.

                Garcia WIN > Salido LOSS.
                To bad a ubber driver achieved more in boxing than Spence and has better bunch of wins...

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                • BillyBoxing
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                  I don't count amateur wins in this and as a pro, Loma has lost already to a guy with double digit losses and has underwhelmed his last 2 fights while spence usually exceeds expectations with his performances.
                  Loma fought salido in his second pro fight and arguably got robbed.

                  You guys are morons to hold that fight against Loma. And that's what is wrong with boxing fans no understanding the sport.

                  Then you guys complain about fighters not taking risks but only praise undefeated protected fighters.

                  I praise Loma for fighting salido in his second pro fight and IMO with proper refering he should have won.

                  Would Spence or Crawford be competitive in their second pro fight in a 12 rounders Vs a guy like Molina or collazo? I don't think so, they would have been stopped.

                  They stepped up to that class after 20 fights for a reason.

                  Loma fighting bigger guys, Spence smallers.

                  Let's see how Spence does at 160
                  Last edited by BillyBoxing; 04-02-2019, 07:47 PM.

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                  • BillyBoxing
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    No fucking way does he deserve to be top 3.
                    Spence surpassed GGG and Broner as the most overrated fighter in modern eras.

                    Never seen a dude being P4P top 5 dude with just a simple wbo belt won against a guy coming of a tko loss and a bunch of defenses. He still has to fight a top.5 in his own division, brook barely was... especially after that GGG debacle.

                    Not saying Spence won't be a great but...

                    Boxing is getting worst.
                    Last edited by BillyBoxing; 04-02-2019, 08:04 PM.

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                    • Jab jab boom
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                      Loma fought salido in his second pro fight and arguably got robbed.

                      You guys are morons to hold that fight against Loma. And that's what is wrong with boxing fans no understanding the sport.

                      Then you guys complain about fighters not taking risks but only praise undefeated protected fighters.

                      I praise Loma for fighting salido in his second pro fight and IMO with proper refering he should have won.

                      Would Spence or Crawford be competitive in their second pro fight in a 12 rounders Vs a guy like Molina or collazo? I don't think so, they would have been stopped.

                      They stepped up to that class after 20 fights for a reason.

                      Loma fighting bigger guys, Spence smallers.

                      Let's see how Spence does at 160
                      you guys keep mentioning his 2nd pro fight and compare it to others records but ignore the fact that he was already 26 yrs old when he fought salido. This wasn't some some 19 yr old kid straight out of the Olympics daring to be great. This was a grown ass man who extended his amateur career to have an advantage over young kids. Crawford was 26 when he won his first world title, spence was 27 when he won his and Loma was 26. Not much of a difference there. Seperately, you want to give Loma credit for his amateur wins when making an argument for his pound for pound status but want to discredit his loss vs salido as a pro because it was his 2nd pro fight?? Yeah OK. That tells me all that I need to know about your logic and sense.

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