Comments Thread For: Bob Arum: If Wilder Hits Him On the Chin, It's Goodbye Joshua!

[LetOutTheCage]

GGG/Joshua ko is more so of the combination of punching that’s taken it’s toll on fighters more so then one punch ko power..... lemiux/wilder we know have legit one punch ko power as we have seen for both fighters, Joshua/wilder fight is really going be who lands first

Precisely, they both have power to knock each-other out. I don't thin Joshua's chin is as bad as people say but that also doesn't mean he could take Wilders power. If he gets caught he is going to sleep.

With Joshua's better fundamentals he is more likely to catch Wilder. We have seen Wilder get out-box time and time again but he has never fought anyone with Joshua's power before. This is the reason I favour Joshua.

[Bronx2245]

No way can you say Ortiz, a guy that beat nobody, was a few days shy of 39 and went life and death with the likes of the White Rhino (and looks mediocre against nearly all mediocre opponents) is better than a determined Wlad (who had been in and out of training camps and came to fight unlike the Fury bout) or Povetkin.

So Fury won b/c Wlad didn't come out to fight, but he did vs. Joshua, nearly 18 mos. later? Stop that! That's disrespectful to Fury! The younger Wlad didn't have Fury on his back! Joshua didn't beat the Povetkin that Wlad did! Anyway, it's irrelevant be/c like I said, AJ's problem is not who he fought, but who he has NOT fought! That would be Luis Ortiz, Deontay Wilder, and Tyson Fury!

[Noelanthony]

If I had to rate the most likely outcome in that fight, it would go like this:

1. Joshua by KO/TKO
2. Wilder by KO/TKO
3. Joshua by decision
4. Wilder by decision

Anyone dismissing the possibility of Joshua winning by stoppage are kidding themselves. To me that is the most likely outcome of them all. Neither guy moves around enough to avoid big exchanges like Fury does. They will be trading leather and one of them is going down and likely out at some point. If they fight super hesitant respecting the others pop? Then there is a chance to goes to decision, but better chance of a stoppage happening then a decision.

Yeah I can see that

[Noelanthony]

I agree, I think it definitely ends in a to/tko. I just personally give the edge to Wilder but I totally think it's possible that Joshua ko's him too. What makes me give the edge to Wilder is Joshua's lack of head movement. Fury's defense is way better than both of them and he couldn't avoid Wilder so think without a doubt Joshua gets caught, plus he has stamina problems so the later it goes the greater the chance if him getting caught, imho. On the other side tho, if Joshua gets Wilder in trouble like Ortiz did, I definitely think he's got the skills and power to finish him. No matter what happens, we're gonna get to watch a great fight, and that's what really matters. Unfortunately I don't think it's gonna happen till 2020

Wilder doesn’t move his head either and is as stiff as anything when being pushed back. However,I can’t hate on anyone thinking Wilder could win because it’s pretty clear cut Wilder’s key to victory

[b Murphington]

We all know Wilder has power but I think the whole "one punch killer" thing might be a bit exaggerated.
He landed twice on Fury who's been dropped by a cruiserweight previously and couldn't knock him out.

He scored multiple knockdowns on Ortiz before the guy succumbed to exhaustion (check Ortiz's corner at the end of round seven).

Is he really in a different league to Wlad Klitschko?

We can attribute at least some ok Klitschko’s power to proper punching technique correct? I mean the guy is naturally powerful, but at least some of that comes from nice punching form and technique.

Wilder doesn’t even have proper balance or punching technique and he’s still able to deliver huge punching power. So imagine if he was actually a skilled boxer who threw proper punches. I think his power would exceed Klitschko’s, or any heavyweights punching power for that matter.

The fact that he’s still a dangerous puncher with terrible technique is quite a feat.

[SchoolTheseCats]

Precisely, they both have power to knock each-other out. I don't thin Joshua's chin is as bad as people say but that also doesn't mean he could take Wilders power. If he gets caught he is going to sleep.

With Joshua's better fundamentals he is more likely to catch Wilder. We have seen Wilder get out-box time and time again but he has never fought anyone with Joshua's power before. This is the reason I favour Joshua.

I favor Joshua to win the fight also but by scorecards think he would make fight look exactly like the Parker fight

[aboutfkntime]

Bob Arum: If Wilder Hits Him On the Chin, It's Goodbye Joshua!

it is a captain obvious statement..... but yep, that's it right there

one punch, and Joshua's career takes a different path

they just don't need to take that kind of risk at this point..... which is why they have been so reluctant to fight Wilder

it will happen, eventually..... when Joshua fanboys get sick of paying for rubbish

[pillowfists98]

And what happens if Joshua hits Wilder on the chin?

[aboutfkntime]

Precisely, they both have power to knock each-other out. I don't thin Joshua's chin is as bad as people say but that also doesn't mean he could take Wilders power. If he gets caught he is going to sleep.

With Joshua's better fundamentals he is more likely to catch Wilder. We have seen Wilder get out-box time and time again but he has never fought anyone with Joshua's power before. This is the reason I favour Joshua.

you are glossing over the obvious point

any heavyweight can knock someone out..... the discussion is not about how powerful Joshua is, who does not one-punch guys he breaks them down

Wilder has EXCEPTIONAL power, and can knock someone out AFTER being schooled for 11.5 rounds

he is EXTREMELY dangerous

ALLLLL of those people you say outboxed Wilder, got KTFO in spectacular fashion..... all except Fury, and AJ is no Fury

if Wilder touches Joshua like Wlad did..... it is all over, and they know it

[Tom Cruise]

We can attribute at least some ok Klitschko’s power to proper punching technique correct? I mean the guy is naturally powerful, but at least some of that comes from nice punching form and technique.

Wilder doesn’t even have proper balance or punching technique and he’s still able to deliver huge punching power. So imagine if he was actually a skilled boxer who threw proper punches. I think his power would exceed Klitschko’s, or any heavyweights punching power for that matter.

The fact that he’s still a dangerous puncher with terrible technique is quite a feat.

His lack of balance is fundamental to him generating power though. When he throws, there is no part of his body that is holding back his momentum, which there would be if he threw with ‘better’ technique.

If he threw punches like Wlad, there is a strong chance that we would see his power drop massively. It’s a credit to Wlad that he hit so hard while maintaining proper form and not throwing himself off balance