It’s amazing how GGG hype deteriorated since Canelo Rematch

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  • j.razor
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    #41
    Originally posted by TonyGe
    Dude we can trade insults back and forth all day but why don't you go a hobby other than ragging in Golovkin.
    Sorry I don't like fake hype jobs so I will expose it.

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    • AKAcronym
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      #42
      Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
      You selectively mentioned the 2nd fight. Atta boy!
      As opposed to the other rematch?

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      • davef
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        #43
        never impressed me like floyd said straight up and down no special effects

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        • Thuglife Nelo
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          #44
          Originally posted by AKAcronym
          As opposed to the other rematch?
          You just criticized other on whether they had watched the 2nd fight...

          What's the punch statt difference in GGG's performance in the first and 2nd?

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            #45
            Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
            No robbery.

            Future generations will wonder why GGG was justified to have fought conservatively with just a jab and have a disgusting miss rate. No risk taking knowing he would get countered. It should be lesson in prize fighting. GGG thought fighting Canelo was some tag-you're-it Amateur headgear type scoring. Judges saw that, and he's lucky Moretti went easy on him. Moretti knew the second time around not to fall for that crap and was disappointed for GGG's team claimed they would do in both fights.

            Canelo gets criticized for fighting more defensively, but GGG gets no fault. Let's be real, it's all because of Canelo score card narratives.

            I thought Canelo was going to fight exact same way in the rematch but land more shots to secure points, instead Canelo shocked everybody and still gets no credit, so let us move on.
            Exactly. History will look back and say why GGG couldnt land anything but jabs and why was GGG so scared to go to the body you know like Mexican Style? The two biggest fights of GGG entire career and the man folks claimed as the best body puncher in boxing and Big Drama Show landed just 8 body shots in fight 1. Was cristiscized for no body attack and made excuses saying canelo ran from him. But in the rematch with Canelo walking him down he again was scared to go to the body and actually threw even less lol





            Body shots is the story of both fights and is why GGG has no wins against Canelo. Mr Mexican Style was dominated in body shots and outlanded in power shots in BOTH fights. He went from Mexican Style to Nothing But Scared Jab Style. His own trainer said that wasn't the game plan and wasn't how he wanted GGG to fight. His own trainer also told GGG to his face you losing stop fighting like this and after the fight said GGG didn't win the fight.
            Last edited by bigdunny1; 04-01-2019, 12:18 PM.

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            • AKAcronym
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              #46
              Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
              You just criticized other on whether they had watched the 2nd fight...

              What's the punch statt difference in GGG's performance in the first and 2nd?
              To keep it simple, G did more jabbing in the first with sporadic power shots; in the 2nd, he still landed jabs and did far better power shots than in the first fight. And it's weird when guys use CompuBox and when they say CompuBox is inaccurate and shouldn't be used to gauge how a fight went.

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                #47
                Originally posted by AKAcronym
                To keep it simple, G did more jabbing in the first with sporadic power shots; in the 2nd, he still landed jabs and did far better power shots than in the first fight. And it's weird when guys use CompuBox and when they say CompuBox is inaccurate and shouldn't be used to gauge how a fight went.
                HBO is gone. They were desperate to salvage any hope in convincing the executives of HBO boxing that its department should continue, so they themselves created controversy with their in-house CompuBox. GGG was getting ''jabs'' tallied for grazing gloves...

                I mean Larry Holmes would mark up faces with his jab. How many jabs was reported on Canelo's face?

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                • STREET CLEANER
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  He has been out of action for 7 months. Is that supposed to be unusual in boxing today with so many of the big stars and champions only fighting once or twice a year? Mayweather took 8 months off every year for many years. He is the star of as many hate threads as ever. TS makes sure of that.
                  GGG was very active and finally now you hear that he is scheduled to fight somebody. For him that is a long stretch of inactivity. Plus he is older. I am just saying that if he was scheduled before in fighting some one and has not gone MIA that looked like he was going to retire he would still be very alive around these threads.

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                  • AKAcronym
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
                    HBO is gone. They were desperate to salvage any hope in convincing the executives of HBO boxing that its department should continue, so they themselves created controversy with their in-house CompuBox. GGG was getting ''jabs'' tallied for grazing gloves...

                    I mean Larry Holmes would mark up faces with his jab. How many jabs was reported on Canelo's face?
                    Every fight has fighters getting tallied for punches that were grazed or blocked. You can see gif's of Canelo in the first fight getting a punch counted that clearly didn't land. Same for both fighters in the 2nd fight and every fight that happens. Punch stats are good to get an idea of how the fight was going but shouldn't be used as a matter-of-fact. They both did really good work in the 2nd fight. I think G gets overlooked for what he did for whatever reason. Canelo has always been the flashier of the 2 so what he does tends to get remembered. An example is the lead left hook in the 2nd round that he landed on Gennady; Golovkin did the same thing later in the fight but nobody posts a gif of that. All of this isn't arguing that G should've won or Canelo should've lost. It's just annoying how the narrative of Canelo dominating or "walking him down" has been so prevalent amongst Canelo fans or G detractors. They then go on to find the worst images of G, where the light is horribly saturated and shadowy to show his bloody, beaten face, when I can find pictures of G that have better lighting and don't show nearly as bad of a face. It was a great fight and much better than the first. Canelo did better work in the first half and Golovkin did better work in the 2nd. A third fight can be even better, assuming Golovkin doesn't show too much slowing down.

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                    • bigdunny1
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by AKAcronym
                      To keep it simple, G did more jabbing in the first with sporadic power shots; in the 2nd, he still landed jabs and did far better power shots than in the first fight. And it's weird when guys use CompuBox and when they say CompuBox is inaccurate and shouldn't be used to gauge how a fight went.
                      you are lying and misrepresenting the fight. He was ineffective in power shots and scared to be counted in the first fight but he actually threw more power shots and FEWER jabs in the first fight. In a fight where he needed to be MORE aggressive, promised to be more aggressive and quote take it out of the judges hands he actually THREW fewer power shots in the rematch and threw almost double the amount of jabs.

                      GGG threw almost 200 MORE jabs in the rematch. Threw less power shots. Meanwhile Canelo threw 100 more power punches from the first fight again outlanded GGG in power shots this time by a wider margin and did while walking GGG down and breaking his face. Canelo was more aggressive and took more risks in the rematch NOT GGG. It was GGG who fought cautious like he wanted to go the judges instead of Mexican Style like he begged for and used as a excuse after a lackluster performance in the first fight.

                      Other then jabs Canelo landed more and higher connect rate in all non jab punching stats. And oddly enough in the rematch after knowing the jabs aren't scoring more then power punches he went even more jab crazy and threw fewer power punches and even fewer body shots...after his own trainer said we will end Canelo with a body shot I call the "Ginger Snap". That's what GGG's own trainer said going into the rematch. GGG threw so few I think I missed it which of GGG's 6 body punches was the Ginger snap? LMAO
                      Last edited by bigdunny1; 04-01-2019, 12:51 PM.

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