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  • guyver8
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    #11
    Originally posted by Fabes88
    No a lot of people said it was too soon. Plus he was in good shape it may have been an 18 month lay off but he was in training camp for much of that time. Klitchko in your 15th fight is a risk no Matter how you look at it. I mean aj could’ve lost that fight. Bear in mind around that time other champions were fighting the likes of Gerald Washington and Chris arreola, you honestly going to tell me klitchko wasn’t a risk for a very inexperienced champion who hadn’t gone beyond 7 rounds at that point
    Spot on. People go on like Wlad was completely washed up. He proved in the fight that he wasn't. He was still in the top 3 available HWs at the time Joshua fought him. Arguably number 1. Fury was semi retired, Wilder was busy fighting bums like Gerald Washington.

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    • DougalDylan
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      #12
      Fury lost a lot of money betting against AJ on Martin, klitschko and Parker.

      Originally posted by Rip Chudd
      People were saying Wladimir was old before the fight and he was coming off an 18 month layoff. They didn't just bring that up after the fight. C'mon bro, you're better than this

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      • Rip Chudd
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        #13
        Originally posted by Fabes88
        No a lot of people said it was too soon. Plus he was in good shape it may have been an 18 month lay off but he was in training camp for much of that time. Klitchko in your 15th fight is a risk no Matter how you look at it. I mean aj could’ve lost that fight. Bear in mind around that time other champions were fighting the likes of Gerald Washington and Chris arreola, you honestly going to tell me klitchko wasn’t a risk for a very inexperienced champion who hadn’t gone beyond 7 rounds at that point
        It wasn't Joshua's 15th pro fight so miss me with that lie. Secondly to fight an aging former champ coming off an 18 month layoff where as in his previous fight looked as if he couldn't pull the trigger anymore isn't some astonishing feat. The fight ended up being good due to AJ's inexperience which is what Wlad had on him. AJ was the fresher and younger active fighter. So in that aspect because of his inexperience it made the fight a bit of a risk, but please don't act as if he was climbing some high mountain with the deck stacked against him. It wasn't like that at all and the people on this site saw it for what it was, they didn't make it up after the fact which is what you initially said. I gave him props for the win though, that's what you're supposed to do in those type of fights

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        • Fabes88
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          #14
          Originally posted by Rip Chudd
          It wasn't Joshua's 15th pro fight so miss me with that lie. Secondly to fight an aging former champ coming off an 18 month layoff where as in his previous fight looked as if he couldn't pull the trigger anymore isn't some astonishing feat. The fight ended up being good due to AJ's inexperience which is what Wlad had on him. AJ was the fresher and younger active fighter. So in that aspect because of his inexperience it made the fight a bit of a risk, but please don't act as if he was climbing some high mountain with the deck stacked against him. It wasn't like that at all and the people on this site saw it for what it was, they didn't make it up after the fact which is what you initially said. I gave him props for the win though, that's what you're supposed to do in those type of fights
          Ok 19th pro fight, does that make you feel better? Really doesn’t make a difference considering it takes some fighters near 40 fights to finally step up.

          A lot of posters said klitchko would win. I remember that clearly

          He looked like he couldn’t pull the trigger against what we now know to be an excellent fighter. Bear in mind what he did to wilder coming off a REAL 18 month lay off. At home getting fat and doing **** all with his life. There’s no shame in losing handily to that fighter at 100%. I do truly believe a rematch would’ve been different though there was a lot of talk about wlad having personal issues throughout that camp which was reflected in his performance.

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          • champion4ever
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            #15
            I think it's a very prudent move. AJ is a lot slower than Deontay. So Fury could probably go the full 12 without getting caught or going down.

            However, if Tyson Fury believes he is going to beat Joshua in the U.K. with that kind of fighting style then he's insane. He better learn to let his hands go more and throw punches.

            In addition, don't be so afraid and cowardly into getting in the trenches with him because judges don't score points for defense.

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            • Ake-Dawg
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              #16
              Originally posted by Fabes88
              No a lot of people said it was too soon. Plus he was in good shape it may have been an 18 month lay off but he was in training camp for much of that time. Klitchko in your 15th fight is a risk no Matter how you look at it. I mean aj could’ve lost that fight. Bear in mind around that time other champions were fighting the likes of Gerald Washington and Chris arreola, you honestly going to tell me klitchko wasn’t a risk for a very inexperienced champion who hadn’t gone beyond 7 rounds at that point
              Of course it was a risk, just not a big risk, particularly given Klitschko's age and previous performance 18 months prior. Also, context matters as Arreola was a replacement fight for Povetkin who got suspended for PEDs and Wawrzyk who's only loss was to Povetkin and also popped for PEDs. Makes me wonder if you just started following HW boxing worldwide upon Joshua's ascension in the ranks.

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              • Fabes88
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                #17
                Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                Of course it was a risk, just not a big risk, particularly given Klitschko's age and previous performance 18 months prior. Also, context matters as Arreola was a replacement fight for Povetkin who got suspended for PEDs and Wawrzyk who's only loss was to Povetkin and also popped for PEDs. Makes me wonder if you just started following HW boxing worldwide upon Joshua's ascension in the ranks.
                So what if it was a replacement fight. Does it mean it didn’t happen? Vanes and Brook were replacement fights did it stop people ****ting over ggg?

                Heavyweights tend to do better with the age test than most other weights. As for his performance against fury it was abysmal but personally I thought it was just an off night and his performance against aj validated that thought. Put it this way at the time aj fought klitchko I had wk as the number 1 hw in the world as fury was technically retired at that point.

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                • tatot
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                  #18
                  After Fury’s performance against Wilder, I’d actually favour him
                  over AJ. I really think he would outbox and frustrate Joshua with his movement and activity. However, with rivals Hearn and Warren as their promoters, we may not see them fight due to ****** politics.

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                  • petegrif
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Fabes88
                    No a lot of people said it was too soon. Plus he was in good shape it may have been an 18 month lay off but he was in training camp for much of that time. Klitchko in your 15th fight is a risk no Matter how you look at it. I mean aj could’ve lost that fight. Bear in mind around that time other champions were fighting the likes of Gerald Washington and Chris arreola, you honestly going to tell me klitchko wasn’t a risk for a very inexperienced champion who hadn’t gone beyond 7 rounds at that point
                    Absolutely right.
                    And for anyone who watched the fight Klitschko was in amazing shape, moving really well until the moment he got caught.

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                    • Ake-Dawg
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Fabes88
                      So what if it was a replacement fight. Does it mean it didn’t happen? Vanes and Brook were replacement fights did it stop people ****ting over ggg?

                      Heavyweights tend to do better with the age test than most other weights. As for his performance against fury it was abysmal but personally I thought it was just an off night and his performance against aj validated that thought. Put it this way at the time aj fought klitchko I had wk as the number 1 hw in the world as fury was technically retired at that point.
                      His performance against AJ validated that he was finished. He had AJ beaten and could not finish remember.

                      As far as GGG fighting Brook and Vanes, the rub was that he had better options that were calling to be the replacement opponent. Wilder had no such option.

                      Context matters.

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