Is Salvador Sanchez overrated?

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  • john l
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    #21
    Originally posted by fistic flow
    And finito Lopez?

    Regardless of the unfashionable weight class, ten years and remaining unbeaten takes some doing. And stylistically there have been few to compare.
    His skills were undeniably his punch delivery was impeccable, but the fact his opponents were pretty weak in comparison and not fighting better fighters wit tough styles you definingly cant put him in top 5 or maybe even 10 imo.I don't hold the staying at one weight against him I think becoming undisputed champ whether you hold all 4 or not is most impressive.I mean who would not consider winner out of Canelo v Jacobs vs GGG the REAL champ?I think holding down a div is much more impressive most of time as jumping up division's cherry picking titles is waaaay overrated.But he never had a tough div and only moved up at end and missed some good fighter's at 108.

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      #22
      Originally posted by OCPancho
      He is .
      I'm not too sure he would have won the rematch against Azumah.
      He was great , not taking that away.
      Great chin and stamina.
      But, Azumah gave him hell on two weeks' notice and a long flight to the US.
      I never saw him get rocked and hit like Azumah did .
      He had to fight for his life against Juan Escobar in LA. He was knocked down and got a gift draw to many eyes.
      Ruben Castillo gave him hell. Many thought Ruben won .

      A lot of people pick him over Alexis had they fought at 130.
      A lot of people argue he was better than JCC.
      Sorry, JCC is the best Mexican boxer ever.
      I agree with Nelson and Chavez beating him but I was just thinking about Mexicans bedsides Azumah.Now that you bring up Alexis I would pick him over and rate him above S Sanchez also in a tough fight.He only really had problems with fast feet movers and although Sanchez used more skill then your typical aggressive Mexican fighter of the day I would favor AA.

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        #23
        Originally posted by john l
        Yea if I remember right didn't he go distance like 3-4 times with a young SRR Arizmendi?
        He was 2-3 (losing the last three) with an up and coming Henry Armstrong. Armstrong was about two or three years out from challenging for his first title.

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          #24
          Originally posted by chrisJS
          He was 2-3 (losing the last three) with an up and coming Henry Armstrong. Armstrong was about two or three years out from challenging for his first title.
          Yea maybe that was what I thinking i think it was Agnott that SSR beat at 35 but never stopped.

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            #25
            Originally posted by john l
            Ever wonder how Gomez made 122 with a head that had to weigh 120?
            I used to get Flash Gordon's bi-monthly journal.
            He said WBC used to rig the scale for Gomez.
            The fight against Juan Kid Meza as one of those rigged scale fight.

            I learned a lot from Flash Gordon back in those days. He pulled no punches.
            He exposed Jose Sulaiman's scams.

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            • kidbazooka
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              #26
              Sal was not overrated hes as legit as they come as far as greats go, his wins over Gomez, Lopez and Nelson are legendary especially if you know the Bazooka Gomez is(alotta folks have him as the greatest PR fighter ever)and Nelson turned out to be arguably the greatest African fighter ever. So yea Sanchez was pretty special there was also rumors of him moving up to face Alexis Arguello after the Gomez fight now that wudda been one for the ages.

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                #27
                Originally posted by OCPancho
                I used to get Flash Gordon's bi-monthly journal.
                He said WBC used to rig the scale for Gomez.
                The fight against Juan Kid Meza as one of those rigged scale fight.

                I learned a lot from Flash Gordon back in those days. He pulled no punches.
                He exposed Jose Sulaiman's scams.
                Don't surprise me Gomez had a lot of trouble making weight even at 126,he claims he was dead at weight for Sanchezbut im not sure I believe that and even if so he had no excuse he was just making 122(well I guess maybe lol).

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by kidbazooka
                  Sal was not overrated hes as legit as they come as far as greats go, his wins over Gomez, Lopez and Nelson are legendary especially if you know the Bazooka Gomez is(alotta folks have him as the greatest PR fighter ever)and Nelson turned out to be arguably the greatest African fighter ever. So yea Sanchez was pretty special there was also rumors of him moving up to face Alexis Arguello after the Gomez fight now that wudda been one for the ages.
                  No doubt he was special and a ATG but some ive seen list him 1 or even 2 top Mexicans ever and in that case I think he was overrated.There is a tendency to romanticize fighters/athletes that die or something else cuts their career short before they show whole game and faced all styles.I agree Arguello would have been great fight AA had great style for the come forward more square "typical" Mexican style but Sanchez was more of a boxer/puncher then most.At end of day I would pick Alexis to win a close but clear dec or even a possible late stoppage.Nothing to be ashamed of both ATG and someone would have to lose the only guys I have picked to beat him are top 25-35 or so greatest fighters of all time imo.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by john l
                    Don't surprise me Gomez had a lot of trouble making weight even at 126,he claims he was dead at weight for Sanchezbut im not sure I believe that and even if so he had no excuse he was just making 122(well I guess maybe lol).
                    He believed in his own media. Took Sal too lightly. He was busy partying and boinking that Puerto Rican starlet .

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                    • john l
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by OCPancho
                      He believed in his own media. Took Sal too lightly. He was busy partying and boinking that Puerto Rican starlet .
                      Hard to believe he would take Sanchez lightly but still no excuse because Sanchez was already well thought of, same with J Toney vs Jones.I don't wanna hear excuse about making weight when both(Gomez,Toney)had just recently moved up and were fighting their biggest bout.Toney did kill himself making 160 but looked just fine at 68 until Jones.I believe it was more Jones then anything and same with Gomez.

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