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  • kafkod
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    #141
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    You can't be this ******; why would BT Sport put up $50m for a fight that Team Wilder specifically talked of staging in the US, knowing that the biggest British fight in the history or Britain didn't even earn $50m?

    If Hearn wasn't confirming the info that he got from Wilder as being legit, what was he asking Haymon about?
    Frank Warren, out of his own mouth, clearly stated that BT funded the $50million offer because they wanted control of the UK screening rights.

    I heard Warren saying that and I posted links to the interview here, as did several other members. Can you give me one sane reason why Warren would say such a thing if it wasn't true?

    What was Hearn talking to Haymon about? He was obviously talking to him about the possibility of other offers and, like he said, trying to get a clear idea of how much the fight would be worth if it happened in the US.

    AJ said he wanted it in the UK, whatever. But now DAZN are in play he has changed his mind about that because, clearly, the money they are offering to stage it in the US is too much to turn down.

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    • LacedUp
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      #142
      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      Wilder-Fury did significantly more than 250k. Nice try though.
      I've seen the absolute highest number quoted being 325k.
      Is 75.000 ppv buys significant?

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      • Scipio2009
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        #143
        Originally posted by kafkod
        Frank Warren, out of his own mouth, clearly stated that BT funded the $50million offer because they wanted control of the UK screening rights.

        I heard Warren saying that and I posted links to the interview here, as did several other members. Can you give me one sane reason why Warren would say such a thing if it wasn't true?

        What was Hearn talking to Haymon about? He was obviously talking to him about the possibility of other offers and, like he said, trying to get a clear idea of how much the fight would be worth if it happened in the US.

        AJ said he wanted it in the UK, whatever. But now DAZN are in play he has changed his mind about that because, clearly, the money they are offering to stage it in the US is too much to turn down.
        Why the **** would Frank Warren put up Joshua's $50m, knowing full well that a UK fight has never generated even $40m (before that money gets split up however they do it in the UK), nevermind for a fight that was set to be sold to air at 3am in the UK?

        Warren's going to pay $50m to maybe end up making $20m on the night? foh.

        DAZN has offered Wilder $40m to fight Joshua, and who knows how much is on the table to Joshua (Joshua's getting $30m for the Miller fight, so hopefully he's getting offered $40m for his own end).

        Wilder vs Joshua for the undisputed heavyweight championship is now THE Fight in boxing; what do you figure that to be worth on PPV now, lol?

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          #144
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          I've seen the absolute highest number quoted being 325k.
          Is 75.000 ppv buys significant?
          75000 units @$75/$65 per unit gets you over $5.5m; rough cuts and all that, you're talking about an extra $2.7m to split up (with still no count for the PPVs that Showtime sold directly to the consumer online).

          An extra $3m to split up, on top of the $4m guaranteed that was covered, for a camp that is supposed to be 'Joe Blow Heavyweight that no American knows' with no money earned? Yeah, that's pretty significant.

          Significant enough to move from $15m as recently as December 2018 to now being offered $40m for the same fight now.

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            #145
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            75000 units @$75/$65 per unit gets you over $5.5m; rough cuts and all that, you're talking about an extra $2.7m to split up (with still no count for the PPVs that Showtime sold directly to the consumer online).

            An extra $3m to split up, on top of the $4m guaranteed that was covered, for a camp that is supposed to be 'Joe Blow Heavyweight that no American knows' with no money earned? Yeah, that's pretty significant.

            Significant enough to move from $15m as recently as December 2018 to now being offered $40m for the same fight now.
            yeah and after wilder does record numbers against breazele joshua will have to pay him more than 100 million!

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              #146
              It's no longer about the fight to Wilder and Winkel.
              These people don't belong in this sport.
              Fans should condemn these clowns.

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                #147
                wilder is so popular and his ppv did so well that his next fight is on normal showtime. the same guys telling him to turn down 100 million arent even confident in him beign on ppv unless he has another huge star

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                • kafkod
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  Why the **** would Frank Warren put up Joshua's $50m, knowing full well that a UK fight has never generated even $40m (before that money gets split up however they do it in the UK), nevermind for a fight that was set to be sold to air at 3am in the UK?

                  Warren's going to pay $50m to maybe end up making $20m on the night? foh.

                  DAZN has offered Wilder $40m to fight Joshua, and who knows how much is on the table to Joshua (Joshua's getting $30m for the Miller fight, so hopefully he's getting offered $40m for his own end).

                  Wilder vs Joshua for the undisputed heavyweight championship is now THE Fight in boxing; what do you figure that to be worth on PPV now, lol?
                  Wtf? Frank Warren didn't say he was paying for the fight. Believe it or not, Frank Warren and BT Sport are two totally different en******!

                  Look, Warren saw the details of the offer, and he said that BT were funding it, so everything you just said is irrelevant. Stop trying to deny reality.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    yeah and after wilder does record numbers against breazele joshua will have to pay him more than 100 million!
                    No he won't.

                    Joshua will see the interest that Wilder is drawing, see the UK support that's still backing, see a third empty Madison Square Garden, and he'll remember that Deontay Wilder's camp was ready to pay him $50m against half of the take on a blockbuster, to take the leap on a 50/50 fight where he had as much a chance to KO Wilder as he did.

                    The calendar says that that IBF mandatory defense letter is coming soon, and calls will be made.

                    The pie will be split (closer to 55/45 Joshua than 60/40 Joshua), the fight will happen, and who gives a **** how much Wilder would get on his share because he'd be getting his defining chance.

                    Win and he's the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world; lose in a good/great fight and he gets a second shot at the undisputed title.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      Wtf? Frank Warren didn't say he was paying for the fight. Believe it or not, Frank Warren and BT Sport are two totally different en******!

                      Look, Warren saw the details of the offer, and he said that BT were funding it, so everything you just said is irrelevant. Stop trying to deny reality.
                      Why the **** would BT Sport pay $50m for a fight that they'd get maybe $20m for at 3am?

                      You keep dancing and tripping over your ****ing feet.

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