GGG most overated fighter of this Generation

[OCPancho]

Monzon was the 70s, Hagler ended his caree when divisions changed.

That’s the worst cop out. Did Toney, BHop or RJJ stay at 160 because those you mentioned did? Stop it man.

Toney got fat . Was fat 168 even against RJJ.

Greatness in one division is not diminished by not going up.
In fact, it shows discipline. Most boxers eventually get too fat for their division.

[AKAcronym]

It says that Canelo has travelled from 139-168 his whole career. Golovkin never went to 168. HBO could’ve easily facilitated a 168 title bout for GGG without Ward in the narrative. GGg would’ve still gotten paid like any other bout at 160. The reasons why HBO didn’t push GGG to 168 was because they wanted exposure at 160. GGG is an underachiever. The fact that GGG’s entire legacy revolves around Canelo Alvarez is ******ed. GGG is a *****. Should’ve gone to DAZN. He’s going to get sparked out by Canelo. That Mexican ain’t playing in the 3rd meet.

So Canelo was playing in the first two fights? There's nothing to indicate Canelo is going to spark GGG. He's taken the best shots from Canelo both upstairs and downstairs and yet it still appeared Canelo was the one who got hurt more than Golovkin ever did. It says a lot that the guy who was supposedly getting beat so badly was finishing stronger in the later rounds and landing better, harder shots. We don't know how the 3rd fight will go but to say suddenly Canelo is going to bring a whole new gear is optimistic.

[UNBIASED BOXING]

It says that Canelo has travelled from 139-168 his whole career. Golovkin never went to 168. HBO could’ve easily facilitated a 168 title bout for GGG without Ward in the narrative. GGg would’ve still gotten paid like any other bout at 160. The reasons why HBO didn’t push GGG to 168 was because they wanted exposure at 160. GGG is an underachiever. The fact that GGG’s entire legacy revolves around Canelo Alvarez is ******ed. GGG is a *****. Should’ve gone to DAZN. He’s going to get sparked out by Canelo. That Mexican ain’t playing in the 3rd meet.

Wow, that's crazy. A 15 year-old Canelo moved up from 140?

Holy ****.

Dude deserves mad props for moving up and winning at higher weight classes.


lol, 3rd times that charm, eh? How old will Golovkin be the 3rd fight? 37? 38? Incredible. Golovkin will probably hit his prime at 42.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Wow, that's crazy. A 15 year-old Canelo moved up from 140?

Holy ****.

Dude deserves mad props for moving up and winning at higher weight classes.


lol, 3rd times that charm, eh? How old will Golovkin be the 3rd fight? 37? 38? Incredible. Golovkin will probably hit his prime at 42.

Pacquiao and Barrera also moved up at 15 years of age. Not sure what your point is.

You probably think GGG has been the same frame in his debut since Jacobs? Lol

Amazing, fans think GGG doesn’t drain 15lbs as Crawford did at 140 and many others

What were GGg’s Highlights with Canelo? Jabs?

[deathofaclown]

The fact that most people think he beat Canelo twice, definitely the first time, it suggests he is far from overrated, unless Canelo is overrated too, which a case could be made for. Not to mention he was past prime and mid 30's when it happened, while Canelo is prime.

The guy is/was one of the top fighters in this era. In his physical prime, he would've beaten Canelo more convincingly, that's for sure.

That said, he's not some ATG or anything.

Ultimately we can tear apart anyones resume if we have an agenda, right? if we really had an agenda, we could say with different/fair judges that Canelo could have 4/5 losses on his record. It is what it is. People are either the best thing since sliced bread these days or a bum.

If GGG is overrated then Canelo is too, when in his prime he only got a draw and very narrow win over an older GGG in fights most thought he lost both.

[Curt Henning]

He's one of the most obsessed over fighters from his fans to his haters. It's bizarre. I think both sides are wrong on him. He's not the messiah and one of the best ever but he's not a bum and a coward. He's been a very good fighter, mostly avoided during his prime and still competitive (IMO and most other neutral opinions he's unbeaten) at an advanced age points to him being good at least in his prime.

The idea that he "refuses" to re-match Jacobs is a strange one that the OP suggested. The Canelo fight was always going to be the one and it was the immediate fight after Jacobs and then a re-match was signed, which Canelo cheated so it got postponed and then by the time the re-match happened Canelo was fighting Jacobs, which Jacobs obviously wasn't going to turn down so I am confused on when the re-match should have happened.

this is fair....even though i agree with the OP for the most part....your post is definitley fair

but i feel like the messiah "ATG" stuff came before any of the other stuff...

its ok to be excited and hyped about a fighter....but its not ok to be unrealistic about golovkin...his fans rarely, if ever, pointed the finger at him...it was always someone elses fault that something didnt happen....and when he finally got some meaningful fights and looked "normal" the excuses flew as to why....age, cheating, other guy too big etc

if golovkin fans had been realistic i dont think he would be getting as much backlash as he does get....you know this for a fact that much more accomplished fighters get beat up here, and other forums, for less

while certainly some guys did avoid him...theres no question he avoided lara and ward too.....even at least ward i understand....ward was gonna derail a canelo fight and i can see why anyone would make that business move especially when nobody in the media is gonna give you any gruff about it....but lara would have made his best opponent for years...and called for the fight......his team and hbo did a great job of matchmaking with him though...and ive always maintained hes a very good fighter....just dont think there was ever really a time id put him p4p 1

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Pacquiao and Barrera also moved up at 15 years of age. Not sure what your point is.

Wow Pacquiao and Barrera moved up at age 15? Holy ****, that's incredible. It's almost like a 15 year old is expected to grow.

Can you figure it out, just yet? Or do I need to type slower?

You probably think GGG has been the same frame in his debut since Jacobs? Lol

Amazing, fans think GGG doesn’t drain 15lbs as Crawford did at 140 and many others

Golovkin has been fighting on fight night around 170 lbs flat for just about his entire middleweight career.

What were GGg’s Highlights with Canelo? Jabs?

Go watch a highlight video of either fight? I don't care. Sucks that Canelo lost that first fight to a 35 year old :wank:, even if he barely won the second.

[Dance84]

I don't even know what you are talking about bro. Both Canelo fights, an overwhelming majority of media scorers had Golovkin winning. That's a fact. No one has beaten this guy yet without alot of people disagreeing. That's what I mean with convincingly

That's the point that's all he's got to his legacy two controversial fights over Canelo that's all he will be remembered for

[Chuckguy]

I didn’t know that fighting to a draw and having a highly controversial loss to the supposed lineal MW champ makes you overrated.
So if that’s the case what does that make canelo since he has a draw and a controversial win over GGG?

[Dance84]

The fact that most people think he beat Canelo twice, definitely the first time, it suggests he is far from overrated, unless Canelo is overrated too, which a case could be made for. Not to mention he was past prime and mid 30's when it happened, while Canelo is prime.

The guy is/was one of the top fighters in this era. In his physical prime, he would've beaten Canelo more convincingly, that's for sure.

That said, he's not some ATG or anything.

Ultimately we can tear apart anyones resume if we have an agenda, right? if we really had an agenda, we could say with different/fair judges that Canelo could have 4/5 losses on his record. It is what it is. People are either the best thing since sliced bread these days or a bum.

If GGG is overrated then Canelo is too, when in his prime he only got a draw and very narrow win over an older GGG in fights most thought he lost both.

That's the thing Canelo still has other names on his resume and is still building up GGG only has two controversial fights against canelo history will remember that he never moved up ,he never fought anyone besides canelo .he wanted Mexican style and failed at it. Canelo still has other names on his resume and still growing at the end GGG all he is a guy who stalled his career waiting for Canelo who took his belts he didn't Chase greatness at 168 he didn't seal the deal with BJS he just stayed there and won't even fight anyone not named Canelo