Comments Thread For: Hearn To Jermall Charlo: What the F*** Are You Waiting For?

[Scipio2009]

Agreed, I just hope you are not one of those Wilder fangirls that says the same thing about Dillian Whyte.

Dillian Whyte never jumped through the hoops; the WBC flatly said fight Luis Ortiz and you're the mandatory challenger, and Whyte said "nah, I'm good".

Charlo was an unbeaten IBF 154lb champion, was rated #3 at 160lbs by the WBC, and fought the WBC's #1 contender (JS Heiland) to become mandatory, with the Centeno Jr fight being given to him as a sanctioned tickover fight (for the interim belt) while he waited on his shot.

[MastaBlasta]

why doesn’t Al ever reach out to top rank or Matchroom to make ANY big fight? Why do those promoters all have to around Haymon and go straight to the fighters manager?

You don't KNOW that, you may suspect it, but you don't know it. Maybe these promoters go 'around' Haymon because they just want to steal the fighters ... not caring about big fights as much as fights period. They need 'Marketable' fighters (i.e. established) which is what most of Haymon's guys are ...

These other guys have a lot of content to fill, so they have been out to steal from minute one. Money eventually talks though, so in the end many guys may take a deal and secure the earnings in the short term.

[PBR Streetgang]

Don't understand why anyone gets so supportive or so hostile to a particular promoter or advisor. They all have their own best interests at heart, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's a business on all levels: promoters, fighters, and even fans to a certain extent. We pay money to watch the fights we want to see (whether that be ticket sales, PPV of subscription service). I want the entertaining or compelling fights made but understand there are other variables involved.

[MastaBlasta]

That BS seems to be working

It's basically corporations (aka Corporate America & Corporate UK) taking over the sport ... much like Clear Channel/iHeartMedia did in music. They control all the fighters/promotions/stadiums. Eventually they decide who champs are by controlling who everyone 'gets' to fight, and even if prospects will 'get' to fight, who gets on tv, who gets promoted and who doesn't, etc.

Then the People will have to stage underground fights to see local favs and anyone not handpicked by the corps. Much like what happened to the Music Industry . The Corps decide who gets radio and press ... boxing is headed down that same road .... and anyone participating will be signed and under corporate control. Outsiders not signed will not be allowed to participate.

Corporate control is fascism, and it's dominating and growing. Glad I got to experience boxing before all of this.

[MastaBlasta]

lol..came up with ajs 50 mil only to have aj say he wont sell his soul for 50 mil and it has to be in UK for the fans

AJ before had said "the fans dont determine my career" and "vegas is the mecca of boxing"....aj also told his fans "go train and fight wilder yourselves if you think its that easy"

wilder then agreed to go to UK for even less money if hearn could guarantee a fight in 2018...hearn sent something with no date on it LOL

lennox, fury, parker froch and khan along with many others in boxing have blamed hearn/aj....yet you cant find many if any that have blamed wilders side...the only people blaming wilder are internet forum fanbois...such as yourself...you dont count.....ill take the words of real people involved in teh sport

LOL...have a good night twat

Still on point I see ...

[MastaBlasta]

lol AJ makes 20 mil or more a fight while Wilder was making 2.5 mil. Of course Haymon would take a risk. If it was the other way around Al wouldn’t risk AJ if Hearn has wilder.

Al doesnt have any big money fights for wilder. That’s why he is willing to risk Wilder. Al won’t risk Spence or Garcia vs Crawford because he wants to keep those welterweight fights in house. He won’t risk any of them vs Crawford

PBC will risk it, but I don't think they will agree to let Arum CONTROL the promotion. That's all that's really happening.

If you had been around awhile you would know that Mr. Arum is famous for the very thing you are calling on Mr. Haymon. He never let his fighters fight anyone historically unless he controlled the show and the money. And hearn is obviously following that same 'blueprint'. Why aren't you whining about him doing it?

Now, go do your homework lil one.

[MastaBlasta]

Blah, blah, blah......Hearn and Arum pay more and their fighters make more, end of story.

NEXT!

Six months ago y'all were crying that PBC was over-paying fighters.

[MastaBlasta]

50 million was confirmed as b*llocks by multiple sources. If you believe a fighter draws up and issues legal contracts I can't help you.

Your Pop Hearn confirmed in the press that the $50 mil was legit. Why are you stuck there? Ok, nevermind ...

[Ray*]

Dillian Whyte never jumped through the hoops; the WBC flatly said fight Luis Ortiz and you're the mandatory challenger, and Whyte said "nah, I'm good".

Charlo was an unbeaten IBF 154lb champion, was rated #3 at 160lbs by the WBC, and fought the WBC's #1 contender (JS Heiland) to become mandatory, with the Centeno Jr fight being given to him as a sanctioned tickover fight (for the interim belt) while he waited on his shot.

So you are one of those! Cool... And your post is full of inaccuracies. Whyte “Never jumper through hoop” I didn’t know you have to do that to get a shot... Please tell us the hoop that Charlo jumped through.... Heiland? Centeno? Lol..

Whyte/Ortiz was NOT for the mandatory challenger (Another lie)..

Whyte has fought and had fights sanctioned by the WBC, hence why he was ranked number 1 by the corrupted WBC. We all know about the whole Breazeale/Molina fight, which wasn’t a sanctioned fight... until somehow we were told later that the fight was sanctioned for an eliminator.

This was AFTER the WBC denied that fight as an eliminator after being asked by a Journalist. The same WBC who sent out a release last week that the Dirrell/Yildirim has passed all their VADA drug testing, which was denied by VADA when they were contacted by a journalist.

My point? I wouldn’t take anything the corrupt organisation like the WBC say as gospel. They never sanctioned Whyte/Ortiz as an eliminator, a mere secondary mandatory. Which means Wilder would make the winner wait for two years just like he told Whyte.

To wrap up if you are going to berate Whyte and cry for Charlo after fighting heiland/Centeno then you are clearly showing yourself that you aren’t really a boxing fan... Just a fan of certain boxers.

[Scipio2009]

So you are one of those! Cool... And your post is full of inaccuracies. Whyte “Never jumper through hoop” I didn’t know you have to do that to get a shot... Please tell us the hoop that Charlo jumped through.... Heiland? Centeno? Lol..

Whyte/Ortiz was NOT for the mandatory challenger (Another lie)..

Whyte has fought and had fights sanctioned by the WBC, hence why he was ranked number 1 by the corrupted WBC. We all know about the whole Breazeale/Molina fight, which wasn’t a sanctioned fight... until somehow we were told later that the fight was sanctioned for an eliminator.

This was AFTER the WBC denied that fight as an eliminator after being asked by a Journalist. The same WBC who sent out a release last week that the Dirrell/Yildirim has passed all their VADA drug testing, which was denied by VADA when they were contacted by a journalist.

My point? I wouldn’t take anything the corrupt organisation like the WBC say as gospel. They never sanctioned Whyte/Ortiz as an eliminator, a mere secondary mandatory. Which means Wilder would make the winner wait for two years just like he told Whyte.

To wrap up if you are going to berate Whyte and cry for Charlo after fighting heiland/Centeno then you are clearly showing yourself that you aren’t really a boxing fan... Just a fan of certain boxers.

Jermall Charlo moved to 160lbs and was immediately rated #3 by the WBC. The WBC decided that matching #3 vs #1 was sufficient to name their next mandatory challenger, full stop.

Dillian Whyte got as high as #4, Ortiz was I believe #1, and the WBC decided that their #1 vs #4 was good enough for their next mandatory, but Whyte didn't want the fight.

Not arguing the quality of the fight, or level of the opponent; simply pointed out that Charlo followed direction and got his shot, while Whyte didn't and still hasn't gotten his shot.