Comments Thread For: Wilder: I'd Definitely Rather Fight Breazeale On Fox Than PPV

[Ake-Dawg]

Lying about Frank warren and Lou di bella telling us the money from coming from BT sport? Those were their words. Those words had nothing to do with Hearn or Joshua.

No matter what Team Joshua says that deal would have zero place for them once it became apparent that BT sport were involved....Are you trying to say Warren and Di bella are lying about that?

Prior to that no one knew about the source of the money because there was NO meeting...In accordance to Finkel own words.

This is what I recall Frank Warren sayings regarding BT Sports involvement.

"When they were putting the bid together, the offer for Joshua I helped with it... BT were very interested in broadcasting it. It wasn't about being on Sky it was about who came up with the most money."

I also recalled Eddie Hearn saying that he feltTeam Wilder planned to shop the fight in order to produce the maximum amount of revenue. In the same interview he said that if he were in their position that is what he would do.

I know that I am triangulating here, but it seems to reason that Wilder used a BT Sports estimated bid as the basis for determining how much of a guarantee they could offer Joshua. I say that based on not yet reading or hearing anyone say that the offer was contingent on the fight being broadcast on BT sports.

[Ake-Dawg]

WTAF if the offer is unacceptable then the fight can't happen rendering the offer no good or if the offers no good then it might as well be unacceptable.

This is why you have the meetings so you know what commitments each team has already in place.

Phone calls work too.

[Ray*]

This is what I recall Frank Warren sayings regarding BT Sports involvement.

"When they were putting the bid together, the offer for Joshua I helped with it... BT were very interested in broadcasting it. It wasn't about being on Sky it was about who came up with the most money."

I also recalled Eddie Hearn saying that he feltTeam Wilder planned to shop the fight in order to produce the maximum amount of revenue. In the same interview he said that if he were in their position that is what he would do.

I know that I am triangulating here, but it seems to reason that Wilder used a BT Sports estimated bid as the basis for determining how much of a guarantee they could offer Joshua. I say that based on not yet reading or hearing anyone say that the offer was contingent on the fight being broadcast on BT sports.

The moment BT sport came into the equation, it made whatever bid Team Wilder comes up with invalid. No matter what anyone else says, whether it’s hearn, his father, Joshua’s Grandfather paternal side...

Again even if they came up with that money let’s say by showtime for example, Team Joshua made it clear they would prefer the fight in the UK. But we would never know that because these two teams didn’t meet to talk about the fight.

What we now know was AFTER, with Warren talking about the 50m and the 30m, and Lou confirming “Nothing wrong with shopping the fight to a british network when we are fighting a british guy”..

Well that British guy cannot be “Shopped” to any other british network. If know now that showtime are struggling for money. If they aren’t where is that 50m that they seem to be using Whyte and others? Can’t they use that money on Wilder? Charlo? Etc

[Ake-Dawg]

The moment BT sport came into the equation, it made whatever bid Team Wilder comes up with invalid. No matter what anyone else says, whether it’s hearn, his father, Joshua’s Grandfather paternal side...

Again even if they came up with that money let’s say by showtime for example, Team Joshua made it clear they would prefer the fight in the UK. But we would never know that because these two teams didn’t meet to talk about the fight.

What we now know was AFTER, with Warren talking about the 50m and the 30m, and Lou confirming “Nothing wrong with shopping the fight to a british network when we are fighting a british guy”..

Well that British guy cannot be “Shopped” to any other british network. If know now that showtime are struggling for money. If they aren’t where is that 50m that they seem to be using Whyte and others? Can’t they use that money on Wilder? Charlo? Etc

Showtime would handle the US broadcast and they would shop the UK broadcast. Nothing wrong with a bidding war between Sky and BT. This isn't about Showtime having enough money to back the guarantee. It is about maximizing revenue in a situation where you have guaranteed $50M to one fighter.

And you're right, once Team AJ said they wanted the fight in the UK, it rendered the offer useless.

[deanrw]

Wilder does not need any of that. He has already generated over a Billion Dollars

[Scipio2009]

I'm talking about Hearn, not AJ. Hearn said "We are interested" a number of times.

Here is a clip of the exact words coming out of his mouth

https://********/Fy914Ae8FcI?t=197

I've gone out of my way and taken time to find that for you. Don't ever call me a liar again.

Any other problems?

That's the call though.

As far as I can see it, things got to as far as "the $50m is real, and the deal is there to pursue if you want" and AJ said "nah, I'm good".

Once AJ made the call, what was there to talk about?

AJ wasn't leaving the UK, so it fell on Hearn to find a deal that would get Wilder over, and the best he could seemingly do was $15m for a fight ten months later after we fight someone else, lol.

[Scipio2009]

Agree on both fronts. The statement I made was in general though.

No one disagrees with that generally, or should disagree with that; if the pot if being split fairly, it's encumbent on both camps to try and create the biggest piece possible

[JRB123]

I'm talking about Hearn, not AJ. Hearn said "We are interested" a number of times.

Here is a clip of the exact words coming out of his mouth

https://********/Fy914Ae8FcI?t=197

I've gone out of my way and taken time to find that for you. Don't ever call me a liar again.

Any other problems?

Yep. He said that multiple times that week. I heard it from him after the Jacobs fight.

https://********/jY6p6DNfDtQ?t=848

[Scipio2009]

That's if the terms are debatable Wilders team stated they wanted 100% control of the show so when they won't meet you and won't send terms, what do you ask for for more info on what you're gonna have to do for the money?

Joshua said that he'd fight for $50m, Wilder's camp came up with the $50m, and Joshua's representative confirmed that the deal was real.

If Joshua had said yes, the meetings would've started, and Hearn would've had his say then. If terms can't be agreed to, outside of a bit of time, no harm no foul

[15 Rounds again]

wilder side is willing to co-promote an aj fight and a fury rematch

those sides only want the fight if they have options on wilder...which tells the whole story and everything you need to know...theyll come to the table if they get 100 percent control and guaranteed winner of the fight

wilders side is willing to take on the risk with everyone ...they believe in their fighter...its plain as day the other sides want a backup a backup plan and guaranteed control over the winner.....that tells you everything you need to know and it couldnt be more obvious in the way they are dealing

"Wilder side is willing to co promote an AJ fight."

LMAO, I'm willing to shag Halle Berry senseless all night long like, whatever.