Comments Thread For: Wilder: I'd Definitely Rather Fight Breazeale On Fox Than PPV

[Scipio2009]

This is an easy one,

Team AJ asked to see the contract it, the request was refused.

Team Wilder ghosted the offer completely, didn't even express any curiosity towards seeing a contract at all.

You can see they're not the same thing?

AJ got the terms sheet, verified by his own damn promoter, had the option to pursue the US offer or again try for a UK offer, and magically came to the conclusion that money doesn't matter if it means he has to leave the UK, lol.

Joshua offered $15m, and then the bull**** went into hyperdrive.

There's no need to lie

[Scipio2009]

I see your point but it’s actually quite straightforward.

Because Hearn said “we are interested, please send us a contract” and was refused. He also requested a meeting when he was in New York and was refused.

Wilder has been made an offer (and a very generous one at that) and has not ever mentioned it except to say “they know what we want” (ie 50/50). Finkel is likewise standing firm on a 50/50 or no contact stance (which is a pretty ludicrous and unrealistic position if you ask most people)

If Wilder requested a contract I don’t think we have any reason to doubt that a contract would be sent. That’s the difference and that’s why there is not inconsistency

Except he didn't say "we are interested"; remember, all that "$50m isn't worth leaving my home fans" bull****.

Why lie about obvious ****?

[Scipio2009]

Depends on the size of the fight. For big fights the draft contract is developed jointly with each side knowing where all the projected revenue is going. There's no sending draft contracts back and forth. That's how co-promotion deals are built and fight revenue is maximized.

If Wilder's side was literally fronting all of the money, what co-promotional are you even talking about?

Hashing out the details would be done together, but with the amount of money that Joshua was getting to simply show up, the least his camp could've done is say yes to the preliminary agreement, and then have Eddie Hearn delve into the details to make sure the terms worked for his side.

When Eddie Hearn offered Wilder the $15m low-ball in 2018, Wilder wasn't going to get a joint say on the US broadcaster, nevermind any other money coming from the event.

Hypocrisy much

[Ake-Dawg]

No one agrees to a 50 mil offer and an industry record deal without a meeting but here we are. Also what you say is not strictly true as often draft contracts are sent in many sectors of business before agreeing a deal, you must not know this.

Wilder said he didn't care what Hearn was offering he was fighting Fury as he had unfinished business which is fair enough so you don't need to defend and change the timeline like you're trying.

Its true for boxing and that's what we are discussing. Canelo GGG 2 was negotiated fully before contracts were drawn and sent for signature. Just like Wilder Fury was.

I didn't attempt to change the timeline or defend anything. I just stated facts regarding when Hearn mentioned 40% to the media.

[Ake-Dawg]

If Wilder's side was literally fronting all of the money, what co-promotional are you even talking about?

Hashing out the details would be done together, but with the amount of money that Joshua was getting to simply show up, the least his camp could've done is say yes to the preliminary agreement, and then have Eddie Hearn delve into the details to make sure the terms worked for his side.

When Eddie Hearn offered Wilder the $15m low-ball in 2018, Wilder wasn't going to get a joint say on the US broadcaster, nevermind any other money coming from the event.

Hypocrisy much

Agree on both fronts. The statement I made was in general though.

[MastaBlasta]

Why would you try and defend this? I'm embarrassed for you. AJ fought Breazeale after 16 fights ...

Whomp-whomp-whomp! You're embarrassed for you, you can't be embarrassed for me. You fan-girls kept saying for a year that Ortiz & Wilder didn't 'deserve' an AJ fight. I've responded for a year that Breazeale, Takam, and Parker didn't 'deserve' fights either by your criteria. Breazeale is a mandatory and a much more EXPERIENCED fighter now than when AJ fought him. AJ CHOSE to fight him, the WBC is forcing Deontay. End of class ...

[MastaBlasta]

You’re saying Breazeale is AJ’s top 4 opponents now?

No, I'm saying he must have been in AJ's top four (in Team AJ's mind), since he CHOSE to fight him after he won the title, and all you fan-girls insist AJ only fights Top 10 opponents. Youall insisted for a long time that WIlder didn't 'deserve' a fight, nor Ortiz. The threads aren't even a year old ... you can go read , they're everywhere on here.

Re-read my comment, you'll get it eventually.

All of that said, Breazeale is another dangerous HW fighter, whether he lost to AJ or not. I'm not knocking him. Beating him, for anyone is a good win. Period. There are no bums in boxing, just challenges. Some are better than others.

[Redgloveman]

Except he didn't say "we are interested"; remember, all that "$50m isn't worth leaving my home fans" bull****.

Why lie about obvious ****?

I'm talking about Hearn, not AJ. Hearn said "We are interested" a number of times.

Here is a clip of the exact words coming out of his mouth

https://********/Fy914Ae8FcI?t=197

I've gone out of my way and taken time to find that for you. Don't ever call me a liar again.

Any other problems?

[Jax teller]

AJ got the terms sheet, verified by his own damn promoter, had the option to pursue the US offer or again try for a UK offer, and magically came to the conclusion that money doesn't matter if it means he has to leave the UK, lol.

Joshua offered $15m, and then the bull**** went into hyperdrive.

There's no need to lie

Sources? You probably won't have any like your other post.

I didn't lie no contract was provided and no 3 page term sheet either.

[Jax teller]

Except he didn't say "we are interested"; remember, all that "$50m isn't worth leaving my home fans" bull****.

Why lie about obvious ****?

Hearn did say that look on IFL TV.