Most Wilder fans thought 8-4 was a draw anyway haha

[sicko]

Admitting that you thought your favorite fighter lost that fight doesn't make you any less of a damn fan. I think Wilder fans are doing him a disservice trying to act as if he is the damn Victim in all this and as if he was the one that was robbed.

He got out boxed 98% of that fight, the 2% is the 2 Knock Downs basically

I would much rather see Wilder IMPROVE instead of this sensitive BS that is going on in which Wilder and his fans take Criticism from Mayweather, Ward and Paulie Malignaggi so personal

[OCPancho]

Well if u won enough rounds it shouldnt matter if u get decked twice if judges are scoring round by round.

Not really. The fight is still scored ON POINTS.
Fury had to win 8 rounds to win that fight b/c of the two KD's.
One can argue the 12th round could have been a 10-7 score for Wilder too.

7-5 Fury but a draw at 113-113 because of the two KD's is not really out of this world scoring .

[sunny31]

Not really. The fight is still scored ON POINTS.
Fury had to win 8 rounds to win that fight b/c of the two KD's.
One can argue the 12th round could have been a 10-7 score for Wilder too.

7-5 Fury but a draw at 113-113 because of the two KD's is not really out of this world scoring .

10-7? Are you joking? What for exactly...Fury came back and put it on Wilder 20-30 seconds after the knockdown, also landed some nice shots before the knockdown...Wilder looked gassed in 10, 11, and 12...he found a huge punch in the last, so credit to him, and a burst after the knockdown which he basically hit mostly air and became gassed again. In no way shape or form is that a 10-7 round on any respectable scorecard

[sunny31]

Yes and No, it does matter. There are two things happening during every boxing match and they are? A boxing match, and the fight.

Deontay Wilder won the fight, Tyson Fury with his semi violent game of tick won the boxing match therefore? Just like Peter Fury stated, a draw was a fair decision.

Cool theory but this is not how boxing is scored AT ALL, I get it you're a Wilder fan, but just stick to Queensbury of Marquees rules of scoring...they are there for a reason

[sunny31]

One (of several) problems I have with this whole "Fury won 10 rounds" garbage is that a lot of the folks saying it seem to either have short memories or reserve their myopia for this fight and this fight only.

Look at the cards when Fury upset Wlad (115-112 twice and 116-111).

Well, if you think those cards were accurate, how can you possibly have a problem with a draw for Fury vs Wilder?

Deontay did much, much better than Wlad AND scored 2 KDs.

Outlanding a guy by an average of one punch per round IS NOT a boxing clinic, especially if the other guy is the one making the fight and your entire strategy is based on avoiding one.

Don't get me wrong...I like great boxing and I think Fury did a great job. But, he simply did not have enough offense to warrant anyone calling his performance dominant or a runaway.

It was a close fight and it could have went either way. A draw was a decent outcome.

Sorry you seem like a reasonable guy but I strongly disagree and I'll explain why. Wlad nullified Fury's offensive game more, Compubox would tell you that he landed similarly on both guys, but in reality if you watch the fights Fury landed cleaner and more regularly on Wilder. Also If you want to follow compubox (which I don't) 1/3 of Wilder's TOTAL lands were in 9 and 12...so 2 rounds.

In reality Wlad and Fury was a battle of jabs and defence where it was pretty competitive throughout the 12 rounds but Fury was stealing rounds as his jab and defence were that bit better, I think Wilder-Fury was more of a bull and matador situation where Wilder's aggression was extremely in-effective for 90% of the fight...Fury's defence was extremely effective for the majority of the fight. So for 80-90% of the fight Fury was winning the battle of the jabs, winning the defensive battle, he was the ring general, and he was landing the cleaner punches, 3 of the 4 scoring criteria, the last one was effective aggression, which Wilder certainly was not.

Wilder did better than Wlad because of the knockdowns which we agree on, but for the rest of the fight he didn't do better, he did slightly worse in fact. I think both fights sit between 10-2 & 8-4 on the majority of cards I've seen. I think 7-5 is a stretch but not impossible.

[The Big Dunn]

If u scored it for fury that says it all cause you are the most bias poster going. Wilder had a 3 point headstart on your card cause he was black.

How am I biased when scoring a fight? You are never in the rbr scoring threads so you have no idea what you are talking about. Just labeling me because you are still upset that so many posters agree with me that you are one of the very worst racists on NSB. Posts like this only confirm everyone’s opinion.

I notice you don’t usually participate in scoring a fight. I guess that is because scoring fights isn’t an exercise where your racism and hate hold any water.

I welcome you to come and score a fight in any rbr thread. Makes the forum better than when you do not watch a fight then log in and post that anyone who scores for the non white or American of being biased or racist.

[Mirror Universe]

I agree apart from with Canelo it was about him filling into 160 too, the pressure started when he beat Cotto but that was not a fight of true middleweights, it was just a big fight, he fought a couple more at 154-155 after which showed he was still small at 160

The reason I have trouble believing that excuse is because in the last few years, all of Canelo's fights have been at super middleweight other than the GGG fights. So if fighting at middleweight was really such a daunting task, it wouldn't make sense that two of Canelo's last four fights have been at super middleweight.

[DuckAdonis]

Yeah 8-4 is still 114-112 for Fury

You need to score it 7-5 for Fury in order to come up with a draw.

[Mirror Universe]

Wilder needs Fury more than the other way around, as no one with two braincells think Wilder won the fight.

I had Fury winning a very close fight. I gave him seven rounds, gave Wilder four rounds and had one round even. So on my card, Fury won by one point. The round I had even, had someone given that round to Wilder, the fight would be a draw. So I can't argue with a draw.

But I can't fathom having Wilder winning. Even with the two knockdowns, there are seven rounds Fury clearly won, so I just don't see how you can get to a Wilder win.

And yet, there were some respected journalists and writers that had Wilder winning. So I don't think it's fair to say no one with two brain cells had Wilder winning. Some people had him winning, for whatever reason.

[DuckAdonis]

One judge had Wilder winning 7 rounds...****ing ridiculous. That guy was obviously paid off